[C38] autopilot

Joseph Launie jlaunie at cox.net
Mon Jul 9 22:43:22 EDT 2012 

Max, Now I need to find some little green men, 4 feet high to work under 
my cockpit. Joe
On 7/9/2012 5:16 PM, Max Soto wrote:
> Joe, that's exactly why I want to replace it. The good thing is that 
> since both can work wit the same display, I can install the wheel 
> pilot for back up on offshore passages..
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 20:33, Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net 
> <mailto:jlaunie at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>> I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it added too much 
>> drag to the steering wheel killing any feel you might have
>> On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto wrote:
>>> Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive unit and 
>>> how is it attached??
>>> Regards, max
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu 
>>> <mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked flawlessly 
>>>> for 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years. This is a heavy 
>>>> duty, below deck machine that steers the boat extremely well to 
>>>> weather and a bit less well while reaching and running.  The 
>>>> mechanics, which are part and parcel of the unique installation on 
>>>> Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket installs) have failed and 
>>>> required my maintenance 4 times. Three times bolts backed out. I 
>>>> retightened and loctighted these bolts and have had no repeat 
>>>> failures. The fourth failure occurred recently when the heavy 
>>>> grease lubrication on the engaging mechanism congealed and 
>>>> prevented the finger from inserting into the quadrant. I removed 
>>>> the old grease, regreased with marine grade and had it back working 
>>>> flawlessly in two afternoons. The big problem with a below deck 
>>>> autopilot on a C38 is the same problem with everything in that tiny 
>>>> space. Were I a larger person I could not have repaired the 
>>>> autopilot. A larger person won't fit down there.
>>>> Don
>>>> On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto wrote:
>>>>> Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under 
>>>>> deck piston???
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com 
>>>>> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Right on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle 
>>>>>> absent the unfortunate fire in 2010.  Given the circumstances of 
>>>>>> the fire, purchase back at salvage we upgraded almost all of 
>>>>>> Hassle's systems and are still fine tuning them.  On another 
>>>>>> note, our instruments were changed from Raymarine to Nexus and of 
>>>>>> course they have different languages, our auto helm is still 
>>>>>> Raymarine and I would like to get the auto helm integrated to our 
>>>>>> system.  Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk Raymarine's 
>>>>>> proprietary language to NEMA?  Any advice would be appreciated.  
>>>>>> I would like to be able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart 
>>>>>> Plotter and have the auto helm follow the route.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
>>>>>> Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
>>>>>> Telephone  909-208-1847
>>>>>> FAX           909-991-7568
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E Mail Larrypi at roadrunner.com <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>>>>>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> 
>>>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Charles
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>> This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from other 
>>>>>> sailors from time to time.  Some of it is great!  And others....  
>>>>>> well, we all have to sound like experts!  After all, how can you 
>>>>>> be a Captain and not be an expert?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell 
>>>>>> off," the bolt in your block would not fall out (it is screwed in 
>>>>>> tight holding your alternator).  And!  you would surely notice 
>>>>>> all the racket of your alternator bouncing around in the engine 
>>>>>> compartment way before you ran out of engine oil!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a discussion with 
>>>>>> a fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power 
>>>>>> boat.  Two engines and 13,000 pounds.  What was his experience 
>>>>>> afloat?  NONE!  Had he even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest 
>>>>>> assured that the guy selling it has promised to tell him 
>>>>>> everything he needs to know to run this thing! He is a very nice 
>>>>>> person and I am sure he will be an expert Captain once someone 
>>>>>> shows him where the ignition switch is!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the rest of you 
>>>>>> guys who have time on task and the grace to share it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck Finn
>>>>>> Mighty Quinn  #114
>>>>>> Great Lakes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The engine wouldn't  loose  all of its  oil, you  would realize 
>>>>>>> first  that  your alternator was off,  there is a small weep 
>>>>>>> hole in the block that the bolt on the bracket seals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> 
>>>>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> *1derful at comcast.net <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Larrypi at roadrunner.com <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>; 
>>>>>>> Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My engine starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is a "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up 
>>>>>>> with this weekend.  He just made a number of suggestions to 
>>>>>>> improve boat.  He said there is a web site for Catalina that 
>>>>>>> tells what upgrades are recommend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He mentioned something about a post-market support for the 
>>>>>>> alternator which is supposed to prevent it from falling off 
>>>>>>> which "would cause engine to lose all its oil."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe in "If its not broken....don't fix it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have gotten into trouble fixing things that work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *"Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>>
>>>>>>> *To: *"Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick, I can only suppose that he will do the work and bill 
>>>>>>> you for it?  If you don't have charging problems, if everything 
>>>>>>> seems to be working OK my opinion is don't mess with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>>>> Team Hassle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> 
>>>>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]> *On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> *1derful at comcast.net <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Catalina
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met a fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my 
>>>>>>> "elcetrical harness"? to one with more amps.  He said the 
>>>>>>> batteries would charge better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that worth while?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My boat spends most of its life tied into shore power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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