[C38] autopilot

Max Soto maxsoto at gmail.com
Tue Jul 10 15:10:07 EDT 2012


The linear drive that I bought shouldn't  add any friction to the steerig system.  
The good thing is that I bought it new for just $80, when the real price is around $1500. 
I bought without hesitation. If there's no possible way to install it, I just keep using the wheel drive, sell the linear drive, and make a boat unit for some other toys!!!
My first offshore trip is in January to Coco's island, so the better the boat is, the safer I'll sail!!
Regards, Max

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 9, 2012, at 18:30, "Donald Strong" <drstrong at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Max: The Alpha has no drag at all on the wheel when the Alpha is disengaged.
> Don
> 
> Don
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>> Joe, that's exactly why I want to replace it. The good thing is that since
>> both can work wit the same display, I can install the wheel pilot for back
>> up on offshore passages..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 20:33, Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it added too much drag
>> to the steering wheel killing any feel you might have
>>> On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto wrote:
>>>> Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive unit and how
>> is it attached??
>>>> Regards, max
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked flawlessly for
>> 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years. This is a heavy duty, below
>> deck machine that steers the boat extremely well to weather and a bit less
>> well while reaching and running.  The mechanics, which are part and parcel
>> of the unique installation on Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket
>> installs) have failed and required my maintenance 4 times. Three times
>> bolts backed out. I retightened and loctighted these bolts and have had no
>> repeat failures. The fourth failure occurred recently when the heavy grease
>> lubrication on the engaging mechanism congealed and prevented the finger
>> from inserting into the quadrant. I removed the old grease, regreased with
>> marine grade and had it back working flawlessly in two afternoons. The big
>> problem with a below deck autopilot on a C38 is the same problem with
>> everything in that tiny space. Were I a larger person I could not have
>> repaired the autopilot. A larger person won't fit down there.
>>>>> Don
>>>>> On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto wrote:
>>>>>> Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under deck
>> piston???
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg"
>> <Larrypi at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle absent
>> the unfortunate fire in 2010.  Given the circumstances of the fire,
>> purchase back at salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems and
>> are still fine tuning them.  On another note, our instruments were changed
>> from Raymarine to Nexus and of course they have different languages, our
>> auto helm is still Raymarine and I would like to get the auto helm
>> integrated to our system.  Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk
>> Raymarine's proprietary language to NEMA?  Any advice would be
>> appreciated.  I would like to be able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart
>> Plotter and have the auto helm follow the route.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
>>>>>>> Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
>>>>>>> Telephone  909-208-1847
>>>>>>> FAX           909-991-7568
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> E Mail  Larrypi at roadrunner.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love
>> truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you
>> smile..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The American Indians found out what happens when  you don't
>> control
>>>>>>> immigration"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
>> safely in
>>>>>>> a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
>>>>>>> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; WOW--
>> What a
>>>>>>> Ride!"
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>>>>>>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Charles
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30 AM
>>>>>>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>>> This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from other sailors
>> from time to time.  Some of it is great!  And others....  well, we all have
>> to sound like experts!  After all, how can you be a Captain and not be an
>> expert?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell
>> off," the bolt in your block would not fall out (it is screwed in tight
>> holding your alternator).  And!  you would surely notice all the racket of
>> your alternator bouncing around in the engine compartment way before you
>> ran out of engine oil!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a discussion with a
>> fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power boat.  Two
>> engines and 13,000 pounds.  What was his experience afloat?  NONE!  Had he
>> even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest assured that the guy selling it
>> has promised to tell him everything he needs to know to run this thing! 
>> He is a very nice person and I am sure he will be an expert Captain once
>> someone shows him where the ignition switch is!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the rest of you guys
>> who have time on task and the grace to share it!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chuck Finn
>>>>>>> Mighty Quinn  #114
>>>>>>> Great Lakes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
>>>>>>>> The engine wouldn’t  loose  all of its  oil, you  would realize
>> first  that  your alternator was off,  there is a small weep hole in the
>> block that the bolt on the bracket seals. 
>>>>>>>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
>> 1derful at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Larrypi at roadrunner.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>> I don't have any problems.
>>>>>>>> My engine starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.
>>>>>>>> He is a "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up
>> with this weekend.  He just made a number of suggestions to improve boat. 
>> He said there is a web site for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
>> recommend. 
>>>>>>>> He mentioned something about a post-market support for the
>> alternator which is supposed to prevent it from falling off which "would
>> cause engine to lose all its oil."
>>>>>>>> I believe in "If its not broken....don't fix it."
>>>>>>>> I have gotten into trouble fixing things that work
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patrick, I can only suppose that he will do the work and bill you
>> for it?  If you don't have charging problems, if everything seems to be
>> working OK my opinion is don't mess with it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>>>>> Team Hassle
>>>>>>>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
>> 1derful at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Catalina
>>>>>>>> Subject: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I met a fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my
>> "elcetrical harness"? to one with more amps.  He said the batteries would
>> charge better.
>>>>>>>> Is that worth while?
>>>>>>>> My boat spends most of its life tied into shore                    
>>        power.
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
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>> <html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Joe, that's exactly why I want
>> to replace it. The good thing is that since both can work wit the same
>> display, I can install the wheel pilot for back up on offshore
>> passages..<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Jul 7,
>> 2012, at 20:33, Joseph Launie <<a
>> href="mailto:jlaunie at cox.net">jlaunie at cox.net</a>>
>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote
>> type="cite"><div>
>>    <font size="+2">I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it
>>      added too much drag to the steering wheel killing any feel you
>>      might have</font><br>
>>    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto
>> wrote:<br>
>>    </div>
>>    <blockquote
>> cite="mid:6A0CD795-D538-4B0B-B788-3D0B03C3E059 at gmail.com" type="cite">
>>      <div>Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive
>>        unit and how is it attached??</div>
>>      <div>Regards, max<br>
>>        <br>
>>        Sent from my iPod</div>
>>      <div><br>
>>        On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <<a
>> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu"><a
>> href="mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu">drstrong at ucdavis.edu</a></a>>
>>        wrote:<br>
>>        <br>
>>      </div>
>>      <blockquote type="cite">
>>        <div> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked
>>          flawlessly for 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years.
>>          This is a heavy duty, below deck machine that steers the boat
>>          extremely well to weather and a bit less well while reaching
>>          and running.  The mechanics, which are part and parcel of
>> the
>>          unique installation on Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket
>>          installs) have failed and required my maintenance 4 times.
>>          Three times bolts backed out. I retightened and loctighted
>>          these bolts and have had no repeat failures. The fourth
>>          failure occurred recently when the heavy grease lubrication on
>>          the engaging mechanism congealed and prevented the finger from
>>          inserting into the quadrant. I removed the old grease,
>>          regreased with marine grade and had it back working flawlessly
>>          in two afternoons. The big problem with a below deck autopilot
>>          on a C38 is the same problem with everything in that tiny
>>          space. Were I a larger person I could not have repaired the
>>          autopilot. A larger person won't fit down there.<br>
>>          Don<br>
>>          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto
>>            wrote:<br>
>>          </div>
>>          <blockquote
>> cite="mid:7F5AE8DE-1B6D-45A0-8895-E002EA637103 at gmail.com" type="cite">
>>            <div>Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have,
>> wheelpilot,
>>              or under deck piston???</div>
>>            <div>Max<br>
>>              <br>
>>              Sent from my iPod</div>
>>            <div><br>
>>              On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg" <<a
>> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
>> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>>
>> 
>>              wrote:<br>
>>              <br>
>>            </div>
>>            <blockquote type="cite">
>>              <div>
>>                <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
>> class="449353915-06072012"><font face="Arial">Right
>>                      on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on
>>                      Hassle absent the unfortunate fire in 2010. 
>> Given
>>                      the circumstances of the fire, purchase back at
>>                      salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems
>>                      and are still fine tuning them.  On another
>> note,
>>                      our instruments were changed from Raymarine to
>>                      Nexus and of course they have different languages,
>>                      our auto helm is still Raymarine and I would like
>>                      to get the auto helm integrated to our
>> system. 
>>                      Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk
>>                      Raymarine's proprietary language to NEMA?  Any
>>                      advice would be appreciated.  I would like to
>> be
>>                      able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart Plotter
>>                      and have the auto helm follow the
>> route.</font></span></div>
>>                <div> </div>
>>                <!-- Converted from text/plain format --><br>
>>                <br>
>>                <br>
>>                <br>
>>                <p><font size="2">Best regards,<br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    Larry Malmberg<br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507<br>
>>                    Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211<br>
>>                    Telephone  909-208-1847<br>
>> 
>> FAX          
>> 909-991-7568<br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    E Mail  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
>> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
>> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a><br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    <br>
>>                     <br>
>>                    Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly,
>>                    Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And
>>                    never regret anything that made you smile..<br>
>>                     <br>
>>                    "The American Indians found out what happens
>> when 
>>                    you don't control<br>
>>                    immigration"<br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    <br>
>>                    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the
>>                    intention of arriving safely in<br>
>>                    a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid
>>                    in broadside,<br>
>>                    thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
>>                    proclaiming; WOW-- What a<br>
>>                    Ride!"<br>
>>                    <br>
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>> size="2"><b>From:</b>
>>                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
>> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"><a
>> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.org</a>
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>>                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles<br>
>>                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30
>> AM<br>
>>                    <b>To:</b> Catalina 38 Listserve<br>
>>                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [C38] up-grading electrical
>>                    system<br>
>>                  </font><br>
>>                </div>
>>                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hmmm....<br>
>>                  This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from
>>                  other sailors from time to time.  Some of it is
>>                  great!  And others....  well, we all have to
>> sound
>>                  like experts!  After all, how can you be a Captain
>> and
>>                  not be an expert?<br>
>>                  <br>
>>                  And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance
>>                  actually "fell off," the bolt in your block would not
>>                  fall out (it is screwed in tight holding your
>>                  alternator).  And!  you would surely notice
>> all the
>>                  racket of your alternator bouncing around in the
>>                  engine compartment way before you ran out of engine
>>                  oil!<br>
>>                  <br>
>>                  While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a
>>                  discussion with a fellow at hospital who is buying a
>>                  38 foot bayliner power boat.  Two engines and
>> 13,000
>>                  pounds.  What was his experience afloat? 
>> NONE!  Had
>>                  he even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest
>> assured
>>                  that the guy selling it has promised to tell him
>>                  everything he needs to know to run this thing!  He
>> is
>>                  a very nice person and I am sure he will be an expert
>>                  Captain once someone shows him where the ignition
>>                  switch is!<br>
>>                  <br>
>>                  That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the
>> rest
>>                  of you guys who have time on task and the grace to
>>                  share it!<br>
>>                  <br>
>>                  Chuck Finn<br>
>>                  Mighty Quinn  #114<br>
>>                  Great Lakes<br>
>>                  <br>
>>                  On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:<br>
>>                </div>
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>>  loose  all
>>                        of its  oil, you  would realize
>> first  that 
>>                        your alternator was off,  there is a small
>> weep
>>                        hole in the block that the bolt on the bracket
>>                        seals.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>>                            Catalina 38 Listserve<br>
>>                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [C38] up-grading
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>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">I don't have
>> any problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">My engine starts after 10
>>                          seconds of glow
>> plug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">He is a "fellow sailor" (not
>>                          selling anything) whom I rafter up with
>> this
>>                          weekend.  He just made a number of
>> suggestions
>>                          to improve boat.  He said there is a web
>> site
>>                          for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
>> 
>> recommend. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">He mentioned something about a
>>                          post-market support for the alternator which
>>                          is supposed to prevent it from falling off
>>                          which "would cause engine to lose all its
>>                          oil."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">I believe in "If its not
>>                          broken....don't fix
>> it."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">I have gotten into trouble
>>                          fixing things that
>> work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">Thanks for your
>> response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR:
>> black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
>> align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
>>                          <hr id="zwchr" width="100%" align="center"
>> size="3"> </span></div>
>>                      <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><b><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                            COLOR: black">From: </span></b><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black">"Larry Malmberg" <<a
>> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
>> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>><br>
>>                          <b>To: </b>"Catalina 38 Listserve"
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
>> href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org"><a
>> href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org">listserve at catalina38.org</a></a>><br>
>>                          <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 5, 2012
>> 6:41:34
>>                          PM<br>
>>                          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [C38] up-grading
>>                          electrical
>> system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Patrick, I
>>                          can only suppose that he will do the work and
>>                          bill you for it?  If you don't have
>> charging
>>                          problems, if everything seems to be working OK
>>                          my opinion is don't mess with
>> it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <div>
>>                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      </div>
>>                      <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
>> class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black"><br>
>>                          <br>
>>                          <br>
>>                          <o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best
>> regards,<br>
>>                          <br>
>>                          Larry Malmberg<br>
>>                          Team Hassle</span><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <div>
>>                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      </div>
>>                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
>> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
>> align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
>>                          <hr width="100%" align="center" size="3">
>> </span></div>
>>                      <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
>> class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
>>                            COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
>> 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>> 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
>>                          COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a
>> moz-do-not-send="true"
>> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"><a
>> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.org</a>
> </a>
>>                          <a
>> href="mailto:[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]"
>> moz-do-not-send="true">[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]</a>
>>                          <b>On Behalf Of </b><a
>> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net"><a
>> href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net">1derful at comcast.net</a></a><br>
>>                          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51
>> PM<br>
>>                          <b>To:</b> Catalina<br>
>>                          <b>Subject:</b> [C38] up-grading
>> electrical
>>                          system</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                          'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      <div>
>>                        <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I met a
>>                            fellow this weekend who recommended
>>                            upgrading my "elcetrical harness"? to one
>>                            with more amps.  He said the batteries
>> would
>>                            charge
>> better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                        <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Is that
>>                            worth
>> while?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                        <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">My boat
>>                            spends most of its life tied into shore
>>                            power.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                        <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>>                            'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
>> black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>>                      </div>
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