[C38] autopilot

Donald Strong drstrong at ucdavis.edu
Mon Jul 9 20:30:22 EDT 2012




Max: The Alpha has no drag at all on the wheel when the Alpha is disengaged.
Don

Don
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> Joe, that's exactly why I want to replace it. The good thing is that since
> both can work wit the same display, I can install the wheel pilot for back
> up on offshore passages..
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 20:33, Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it added too much drag
> to the steering wheel killing any feel you might have
> > On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto wrote:
> >> Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive unit and how
> is it attached??
> >> Regards, max
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPod
> >> 
> >> On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked flawlessly for
> 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years. This is a heavy duty, below
> deck machine that steers the boat extremely well to weather and a bit less
> well while reaching and running.  The mechanics, which are part and parcel
> of the unique installation on Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket
> installs) have failed and required my maintenance 4 times. Three times
> bolts backed out. I retightened and loctighted these bolts and have had no
> repeat failures. The fourth failure occurred recently when the heavy grease
> lubrication on the engaging mechanism congealed and prevented the finger
> from inserting into the quadrant. I removed the old grease, regreased with
> marine grade and had it back working flawlessly in two afternoons. The big
> problem with a below deck autopilot on a C38 is the same problem with
> everything in that tiny space. Were I a larger person I could not have
> repaired the autopilot. A larger person won't fit down there.
> >>> Don
> >>> On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto wrote:
> >>>> Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under deck
> piston???
> >>>> Max
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from my iPod
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg"
> <Larrypi at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Right on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle absent
> the unfortunate fire in 2010.  Given the circumstances of the fire,
> purchase back at salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems and
> are still fine tuning them.  On another note, our instruments were changed
> from Raymarine to Nexus and of course they have different languages, our
> auto helm is still Raymarine and I would like to get the auto helm
> integrated to our system.  Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk
> Raymarine's proprietary language to NEMA?  Any advice would be
> appreciated.  I would like to be able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart
> Plotter and have the auto helm follow the route.
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Larry Malmberg
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
> >>>>> Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
> >>>>> Telephone  909-208-1847
> >>>>> FAX           909-991-7568
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> >>>>> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; WOW--
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30 AM
> >>>>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hmmm....
> >>>>> This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from other sailors
> from time to time.  Some of it is great!  And others....  well, we all have
> to sound like experts!  After all, how can you be a Captain and not be an
> expert?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell
> off," the bolt in your block would not fall out (it is screwed in tight
> holding your alternator).  And!  you would surely notice all the racket of
> your alternator bouncing around in the engine compartment way before you
> ran out of engine oil!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a discussion with a
> fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power boat.  Two
> engines and 13,000 pounds.  What was his experience afloat?  NONE!  Had he
> even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest assured that the guy selling it
> has promised to tell him everything he needs to know to run this thing! 
> He is a very nice person and I am sure he will be an expert Captain once
> someone shows him where the ignition switch is!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the rest of you guys
> who have time on task and the grace to share it!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Chuck Finn
> >>>>> Mighty Quinn  #114
> >>>>> Great Lakes
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
> >>>>>> The engine wouldn’t  loose  all of its  oil, you  would realize
> first  that  your alternator was off,  there is a small weep hole in the
> block that the bolt on the bracket seals. 
> >>>>>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> 1derful at comcast.net
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM
> >>>>>> To: Larrypi at roadrunner.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> >>>>>> I don't have any problems.
> >>>>>> My engine starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.
> >>>>>> He is a "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up
> with this weekend.  He just made a number of suggestions to improve boat. 
> He said there is a web site for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
> recommend. 
> >>>>>> He mentioned something about a post-market support for the
> alternator which is supposed to prevent it from falling off which "would
> cause engine to lose all its oil."
> >>>>>> I believe in "If its not broken....don't fix it."
> >>>>>> I have gotten into trouble fixing things that work
> >>>>>> Thanks for your response.
> >>>>>> Patrick
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> From: "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
> >>>>>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Patrick, I can only suppose that he will do the work and bill you
> for it?  If you don't have charging problems, if everything seems to be
> working OK my opinion is don't mess with it.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Larry Malmberg
> >>>>>> Team Hassle
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> 1derful at comcast.net
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51 PM
> >>>>>> To: Catalina
> >>>>>> Subject: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I met a fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my
> "elcetrical harness"? to one with more amps.  He said the batteries would
> charge better.
> >>>>>> Is that worth while?
> >>>>>> My boat spends most of its life tied into shore                    
>         power.
> >>>>>> Patrick
> >>>>>> 
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> <html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Joe, that's exactly why I want
> to replace it. The good thing is that since both can work wit the same
> display, I can install the wheel pilot for back up on offshore
> passages..<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Jul 7,
> 2012, at 20:33, Joseph Launie <<a
> href="mailto:jlaunie at cox.net">jlaunie at cox.net</a>>
> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote
> type="cite"><div>
>     <font size="+2">I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it
>       added too much drag to the steering wheel killing any feel you
>       might have</font><br>
>     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto
> wrote:<br>
>     </div>
>     <blockquote
> cite="mid:6A0CD795-D538-4B0B-B788-3D0B03C3E059 at gmail.com" type="cite">
>       <div>Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive
>         unit and how is it attached??</div>
>       <div>Regards, max<br>
>         <br>
>         Sent from my iPod</div>
>       <div><br>
>         On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <<a
> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu"><a
> href="mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu">drstrong at ucdavis.edu</a></a>>
>         wrote:<br>
>         <br>
>       </div>
>       <blockquote type="cite">
>         <div> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked
>           flawlessly for 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years.
>           This is a heavy duty, below deck machine that steers the boat
>           extremely well to weather and a bit less well while reaching
>           and running.  The mechanics, which are part and parcel of
> the
>           unique installation on Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket
>           installs) have failed and required my maintenance 4 times.
>           Three times bolts backed out. I retightened and loctighted
>           these bolts and have had no repeat failures. The fourth
>           failure occurred recently when the heavy grease lubrication on
>           the engaging mechanism congealed and prevented the finger from
>           inserting into the quadrant. I removed the old grease,
>           regreased with marine grade and had it back working flawlessly
>           in two afternoons. The big problem with a below deck autopilot
>           on a C38 is the same problem with everything in that tiny
>           space. Were I a larger person I could not have repaired the
>           autopilot. A larger person won't fit down there.<br>
>           Don<br>
>           <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto
>             wrote:<br>
>           </div>
>           <blockquote
> cite="mid:7F5AE8DE-1B6D-45A0-8895-E002EA637103 at gmail.com" type="cite">
>             <div>Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have,
> wheelpilot,
>               or under deck piston???</div>
>             <div>Max<br>
>               <br>
>               Sent from my iPod</div>
>             <div><br>
>               On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg" <<a
> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>>
> 
>               wrote:<br>
>               <br>
>             </div>
>             <blockquote type="cite">
>               <div>
>                 <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
> class="449353915-06072012"><font face="Arial">Right
>                       on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on
>                       Hassle absent the unfortunate fire in 2010. 
> Given
>                       the circumstances of the fire, purchase back at
>                       salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems
>                       and are still fine tuning them.  On another
> note,
>                       our instruments were changed from Raymarine to
>                       Nexus and of course they have different languages,
>                       our auto helm is still Raymarine and I would like
>                       to get the auto helm integrated to our
> system. 
>                       Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk
>                       Raymarine's proprietary language to NEMA?  Any
>                       advice would be appreciated.  I would like to
> be
>                       able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart Plotter
>                       and have the auto helm follow the
> route.</font></span></div>
>                 <div> </div>
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>                 <p><font size="2">Best regards,<br>
>                     <br>
>                     Larry Malmberg<br>
>                     <br>
>                     7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507<br>
>                     Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211<br>
>                     Telephone  909-208-1847<br>
>                    
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>                     <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles<br>
>                     <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30
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>                 <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hmmm....<br>
>                   This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from
>                   other sailors from time to time.  Some of it is
>                   great!  And others....  well, we all have to
> sound
>                   like experts!  After all, how can you be a Captain
> and
>                   not be an expert?<br>
>                   <br>
>                   And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance
>                   actually "fell off," the bolt in your block would not
>                   fall out (it is screwed in tight holding your
>                   alternator).  And!  you would surely notice
> all the
>                   racket of your alternator bouncing around in the
>                   engine compartment way before you ran out of engine
>                   oil!<br>
>                   <br>
>                   While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a
>                   discussion with a fellow at hospital who is buying a
>                   38 foot bayliner power boat.  Two engines and
> 13,000
>                   pounds.  What was his experience afloat? 
> NONE!  Had
>                   he even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest
> assured
>                   that the guy selling it has promised to tell him
>                   everything he needs to know to run this thing!  He
> is
>                   a very nice person and I am sure he will be an expert
>                   Captain once someone shows him where the ignition
>                   switch is!<br>
>                   <br>
>                   That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the
> rest
>                   of you guys who have time on task and the grace to
>                   share it!<br>
>                   <br>
>                   Chuck Finn<br>
>                   Mighty Quinn  #114<br>
>                   Great Lakes<br>
>                   <br>
>                   On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:<br>
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>                     <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
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>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">I don't have
> any problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">My engine starts after 10
>                           seconds of glow
> plug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">He is a "fellow sailor" (not
>                           selling anything) whom I rafter up with
> this
>                           weekend.  He just made a number of
> suggestions
>                           to improve boat.  He said there is a web
> site
>                           for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
>                          
> recommend. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">He mentioned something about a
>                           post-market support for the alternator which
>                           is supposed to prevent it from falling off
>                           which "would cause engine to lose all its
>                           oil."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">I believe in "If its not
>                           broken....don't fix
> it."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">I have gotten into trouble
>                           fixing things that
> work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">Thanks for your
> response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR:
> black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
> align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
>                           <hr id="zwchr" width="100%" align="center"
> size="3"> </span></div>
>                       <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><b><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                             COLOR: black">From: </span></b><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black">"Larry Malmberg" <<a
> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
> href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>><br>
>                           <b>To: </b>"Catalina 38 Listserve"
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org"><a
> href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org">listserve at catalina38.org</a></a>><br>
>                           <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 5, 2012
> 6:41:34
>                           PM<br>
>                           <b>Subject: </b>Re: [C38] up-grading
>                           electrical
> system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p class="MsoNormal"><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Patrick, I
>                           can only suppose that he will do the work and
>                           bill you for it?  If you don't have
> charging
>                           problems, if everything seems to be working OK
>                           my opinion is don't mess with
> it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <div>
>                         <p class="MsoNormal"><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       </div>
>                       <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
> class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black"><br>
>                           <br>
>                           <br>
>                           <o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Arial','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best
> regards,<br>
>                           <br>
>                           Larry Malmberg<br>
>                           Team Hassle</span><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <div>
>                         <p class="MsoNormal"><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       </div>
>                       <p class="MsoNormal"><span
> style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
> align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
>                           <hr width="100%" align="center" size="3">
> </span></div>
>                       <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
> class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
>                             COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
> 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
>                           COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a
> moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"><a
> href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.org</a>
</a>
>                           <a
> href="mailto:[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]"
> moz-do-not-send="true">[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]</a>
>                           <b>On Behalf Of </b><a
> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net"><a
> href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net">1derful at comcast.net</a></a><br>
>                           <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51
> PM<br>
>                           <b>To:</b> Catalina<br>
>                           <b>Subject:</b> [C38] up-grading
> electrical
>                           system</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                           'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       <div>
>                         <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I met a
>                             fellow this weekend who recommended
>                             upgrading my "elcetrical harness"? to one
>                             with more amps.  He said the batteries
> would
>                             charge
> better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                         <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Is that
>                             worth
> while?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                         <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">My boat
>                             spends most of its life tied into shore
>                             power.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                         <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
>                             'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>                       </div>
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