[C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question

Steven Ribble steve.ribble at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 13:03:28 EST 2013


I liked the picture of Don's dodger that used metal grommets as a line
pass-through to protect the fabric. A dodger is on my list, up to now I had
just been thinking of making a large cutout to accommodate the lines.

On Friday, January 4, 2013, Max soto wrote:

> David, too bad that my boat didn't came already with all those upgrades..
> I would have save lot's of boat units! But at least that project is almost
> finish... Just need to lead the lines on starboard (that means buying
> another winch, deck organizer and clutches( one more boat unit!))and I'll
> be done! LOL
>
> Steve, I was looking all over my CPU and wasn't able to find the cad
> drawing.. I will measure them and send you an email... I also want to
> replace the traveller for a straight one, so I won't be using these risers
> anymore, but who nows how long that project will take to be completed.....
>
> Ray, I just made small openings on the dodger at deck level..reinforced
> the edges with leather to avoid chafe... Will take closer pics this
> weekend..
>
> Regards,
> Max Soto A.
> C38 #198 Estancia
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, David Epstein <davidepstein at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Max,
>
> When Sid originally ordered SuperStar, he specified two winches and five
> rope clutches on the deck (instead of on the mast).   Based on the upward
> forces that would be imposed on the deck by the upward tension of the
> halyards, a turnbuckle was added to connect the mast itself to the mast
> collar/deck.  This prevented the deck from lifting up.
>
> I attached a photo showing the strut assembly on SuperStar.
>
>
> David Epstein
> Former owner of SuperStar, #122, Marina del Rey
>
>
> At 06:35 PM 1/2/2013, you wrote:
>
> Max,
> We had that original on Macavity in 1991 as well. It was developed by Sid
> Blender on Super Star. Sid sailed out of Marina del Rey. Joe/Macavity
> On 1/2/2013 2:11 PM, Max soto wrote:
>
>
> Mark, when the halyard is tight, there will be a lot of
> tension in the mast collar block, and it will tend to pull the deck
> upwards... That's why the turnbuckle needs to be installed from the deck,
> to the mast... If you don't, you will have constant leaks through the
> mast collar seal, and of course, cracks around the collar will start to
> develop.... The turnbuckle, u-bolt and pad eye is 3/8. I copied
> everything from a 1984 C38 that came with all these as original
> equipment...
> Doug at Garhauer was the one that helped me with the mast collar
> plates...
> Regards,
>
> Max Soto A.
> C38 #198 Estancia
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Mark O'Dell"
> <mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Max I'm confused about the extra turn buckle you installed inside
> under the mast. What's that for?
>
> — M
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Max Soto<maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mark and Steve,
> I just posted some pics about the risers and the mast collar blocks on
> my
> blog. Check it out..
> Regards,
> Max
>
>
> 2013/1/1 Steve Smolinske
> <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>
>
> Max,
>
> I checked out your blog it looks like you have a curved traveler track?
> Where did you get the risers?
>
> Steve
>
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> mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Max soto
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question
>
> Hi Mark, I have the winch and clutches mounted inside the dodger. I
> installed a Lewmar 30 and a spinlok clutch. Space is tight, but
> everything works ok. I'm only able to use a 8" winch handle
> for  a full
> revolution.
> The spinlok clutch levers opens to the front. Lewmar clutch levers opens
> to the back of it, which gives it more room to move it forward against
> the dodger, but they also have a reputation for chewing lines....
> I have some pics of the installation on my blog
> www.svestancia.blogspot.com I also have a Garhauer vang, and I love
> it..
> Talk to Mark, or Doug. Remember to tell them that is for a C38. They
> will send it with the brackets custom made for our mast and boom.
> Hope this helps!
>
> Max Soto A.
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:04 AM, "Mark O'Dell"
> <mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanx for the input everyone. Sounds like the Garhauer vang  is
> the
> vang of choice. Good to know.
> Y blog
> As far as the re-route of the main halyard goes, it looks like I'd
> have a bit of work to do.
>
> Seems like the best way would be to install a winch on the portside
> cabin top and reroute the main sheet to it. Freeing the starb side
> winch for the halyard.
> But...I have a dodger which severely limits my area in which to mount
> a chock forward of the halyard winch... it would have to be outside
> and forward of the the dodger. Bummer. Back t
>
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Steve Ribble
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