[C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question

Fri Jan 4 14:41:58 EST 2013

Max,
     You may want to look at my traveler when the time comes. The 
haarken traveler is not rated to bridge that wide an area. I reinforced 
it with a bar of solid aluminum, 1/2 inch by 2 inches. I used the Harken 
risers which are ligher and neater than the wooden blocks. The wooden 
blocks were held on with 3   -  1/4 inch bolts, 6 inches long (they were 
welded) Joe
On 1/4/2013 9:46 AM, Max soto wrote:
> David, too bad that my boat didn't came already with all those 
> upgrades.. I would have save lot's of boat units! But at least that 
> project is almost finish... Just need to lead the lines on starboard 
> (that means buying another winch, deck organizer and clutches( one 
> more boat unit!))and I'll be done! LOL
>
> Steve, I was looking all over my CPU and wasn't able to find the cad 
> drawing.. I will measure them and send you an email... I also want to 
> replace the traveller for a straight one, so I won't be using these 
> risers anymore, but who nows how long that project will take to be 
> completed.....
>
> Ray, I just made small openings on the dodger at deck 
> level..reinforced the edges with leather to avoid chafe... Will take 
> closer pics this weekend..
>
> Regards,
> Max Soto A.
> C38 #198 Estancia
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, David Epstein <davidepstein at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:davidepstein at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>> Max,
>>
>> When Sid originally ordered SuperStar, he specified two winches and 
>> five rope clutches on the deck (instead of on the mast).   Based on 
>> the upward forces that would be imposed on the deck by the upward 
>> tension of the halyards, a turnbuckle was added to connect the mast 
>> itself to the mast collar/deck.  This prevented the deck from lifting up.
>>
>> I attached a photo showing the strut assembly on SuperStar.
>>
>>
>> David Epstein
>> Former owner of SuperStar, #122, Marina del Rey
>>
>>
>> At 06:35 PM 1/2/2013, you wrote:
>>> Max,
>>> We had that original on Macavity in 1991 as well. It was developed 
>>> by Sid Blender on Super Star. Sid sailed out of Marina del Rey. 
>>> Joe/Macavity
>>> On 1/2/2013 2:11 PM, Max soto wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark, when the halyard is tight, there will be a lot of
>>>> tension in the mast collar block, and it will tend to pull the deck
>>>> upwards... That's why the turnbuckle needs to be installed from the deck,
>>>> to the mast... If you don't, you will have constant leaks through the
>>>> mast collar seal, and of course, cracks around the collar will start to
>>>> develop.... The turnbuckle, u-bolt and pad eye is 3/8. I copied
>>>> everything from a 1984 C38 that came with all these as original
>>>> equipment...
>>>> Doug at Garhauer was the one that helped me with the mast collar
>>>> plates...
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Max Soto A.
>>>> C38 #198 Estancia
>>>> +506-8312-1367
>>>> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Mark O'Dell"
>>>>
>>>> <mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com>  <mailto:mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Max I'm confused about the extra turn buckle you installed inside
>>>>> under the mast. What's that for?
>>>>>
>>>>> --- M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Max Soto
>>>>> <maxsoto at gmail.com>  <mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark and Steve,
>>>>>> I just posted some pics about the risers and the mast collar blocks on
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> blog. Check it out..
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/1 Steve Smolinske
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>  <mailto:SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked out your blog it looks like you have a curved traveler track?
>>>>>>> Where did you get the risers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org  <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>> mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Max soto
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:01 PM
>>>>>>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark, I have the winch and clutches mounted inside the dodger. I
>>>>>>> installed a Lewmar 30 and a spinlok clutch. Space is tight, but
>>>>>>> everything works ok. I'm only able to use a 8" winch handle
>>>>>>> for  a full
>>>>>>> revolution.
>>>>>>> The spinlok clutch levers opens to the front. Lewmar clutch levers opens
>>>>>>> to the back of it, which gives it more room to move it forward against
>>>>>>> the dodger, but they also have a reputation for chewing lines....
>>>>>>> I have some pics of the installation on my blog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.svestancia.blogspot.com  <http://www.svestancia.blogspot.com>  I also have a Garhauer vang, and I love
>>>>>>> it..
>>>>>>> Talk to Mark, or Doug. Remember to tell them that is for a C38. They
>>>>>>> will send it with the brackets custom made for our mast and boom.
>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max Soto A.
>>>>>>> +506-8312-1367
>>>>>>> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:04 AM, "Mark O'Dell"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com>  <mailto:mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx for the input everyone. Sounds like the Garhauer vang  is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> vang of choice. Good to know.
>>>>>>>> Y blog
>>>>>>>> As far as the re-route of the main halyard goes, it looks like I'd
>>>>>>>> have a bit of work to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems like the best way would be to install a winch on the portside
>>>>>>>> cabin top and reroute the main sheet to it. Freeing the starb side
>>>>>>>> winch for the halyard.
>>>>>>>> But...I have a dodger which severely limits my area in which to mount
>>>>>>>> a chock forward of the halyard winch... it would have to be outside
>>>>>>>> and forward of the the dodger. Bummer. Back to the drawing board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx for the input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark O
>>>>>>>> Momentous #230
>>>>>>>> Baltimore
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Max Soto
>>>>>> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>>>>> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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