[C38] Another Toe Rail question

Ray Torok torok13731 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 06:42:07 EST 2013


Thanks Tom,

That's exactly the info I need.  I also would be interested in the photos.
 Here's a couple more questions for you.  When you mounted the cleats, was
there any problem with the deck core material in that area  being too soft
(e.g., balsa), so that it was necessary to gouge it out and backfill with
epoxy or the like?  Did you ever have problems with running rigging, like
jib sheets or spinnaker sheets getting caught on the cleats?

Thanks again,

Ray


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Pierre Patino <pierre.patino at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hi Tom
>
> I for one would love to see those pictures. I was thinking this weekend
> how useful a couple of extra cleats would be.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM, tdtron at earthlink.net <
> tdtron at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>  Hello Ray,
>>
>> I owned the Renata, hull #95, for about 17 yrs and cutting through the
>> toe real for forward cleats was one of the first modifications I made.  I
>> would do it again in a heartbeat.
>>
>> I used a scroll saw to cut through the rail and then I ran the saw
>> horizontally about 1/16" above the flange cutting through the ribs.  I then
>> used a file to finish the cut being careful not to hit the flange.  I
>> carefully dressed the rail ends where the cut was made making a smooth
>> radiased end to both sides of the cutout area.  I painted the cuts and file
>> marks with black paint and it looked pretty good when I was finished.  The
>> flange area in the cutout acted as a rub rail for the line since the edges
>> were radiased.
>>
>> I think I still have the pieces of aluminum I cut out.  If I do I can
>> photo them if you want.  I save aluminum for foundry work.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Ray Torok <torok13731 at gmail.com>
>> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <Listserve at catalina38.org>
>> *Sent:* 2/21/2013 9:44:13 PM
>> *Subject:* [C38] Another Toe Rail question
>>
>>  I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck
>> just behind the pulpit.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow cleats
>> in the gap?  The idea would be to put them close enough to the rail so that
>> chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and leaving the bottom
>> part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going to the cleats rub on it
>> rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat.
>>
>> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or knows
>> why it's a bad idea).
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>> THIRA  #37
>>
>>
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