[C38] Another Toe Rail question

les hlhowell at pacbell.net
Fri Feb 22 14:35:13 EST 2013


As all of you know I sold my boat, now Knee Deep, and she is on her way
to the east coast and up for sale.

	I had thought of this, and I don't think it is a bad idea.  Ont thing I
thought of was using starboard to make a platform for the cleat.  It is
dense, doesn't rust or rot and should provide a solid platform for the
the cleat.  If this platform were to extend a bit over the edge, it
could be rounded with a router and would provide a chafe guard with
pretty much a slick surface which should lessen the chafing.  I don't
know if anyone has done this before or not, but asking on some cruising
websites might get some additional information.

	However, at the same time, Cleats work best when the line of pull is
roughly in line with the cleat.  I think looking at the website of the
cleat you wish to use would be helpful.  This is why the big boats and
ships use cleats inboard with chocks for the fairlead.  This ensures
that the cleat, bits or bollock have the pull at the right angle.  For a
potential anchor line, having a fair lead with little chafe is pretty
important.

	Dockmasters don't worry about it.  They choose the slip size and double
the size of the cleat or other line gear and just let the owners deal
with the chafe at that end.  

Regards,
Les H

On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:34 -0800, Ray Torok wrote:
> I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck
> just behind the pulpit.
> 
> 
> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow
> cleats in the gap?  The idea would be to put them close enough to the
> rail so that chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and
> leaving the bottom part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going
> to the cleats rub on it rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat.  
> 
> 
> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or
> knows why it's a bad idea).
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Ray
> THIRA  #37
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