[C38] Another Toe Rail question

[Joseph Launie]

On a racing boat any cleat is a potential fouled line. We use folding 
cleats which bolt to the toe rail where ever you want them. We have one 
on each side at the bow (Bow cleat long gone because of sprit) and one 
aft of the shrouds for the spring line. We attach the line using 
climbing gear snap hooks.  Aft we use conventional cleats. New Sony 
camera ordered - pix coming. Joe
On 2/22/2013 11:35 AM, les wrote:
> As all of you know I sold my boat, now Knee Deep, and she is on her way
> to the east coast and up for sale.
>
> 	I had thought of this, and I don't think it is a bad idea.  Ont thing I
> thought of was using starboard to make a platform for the cleat.  It is
> dense, doesn't rust or rot and should provide a solid platform for the
> the cleat.  If this platform were to extend a bit over the edge, it
> could be rounded with a router and would provide a chafe guard with
> pretty much a slick surface which should lessen the chafing.  I don't
> know if anyone has done this before or not, but asking on some cruising
> websites might get some additional information.
>
> 	However, at the same time, Cleats work best when the line of pull is
> roughly in line with the cleat.  I think looking at the website of the
> cleat you wish to use would be helpful.  This is why the big boats and
> ships use cleats inboard with chocks for the fairlead.  This ensures
> that the cleat, bits or bollock have the pull at the right angle.  For a
> potential anchor line, having a fair lead with little chafe is pretty
> important.
>
> 	Dockmasters don't worry about it.  They choose the slip size and double
> the size of the cleat or other line gear and just let the owners deal
> with the chafe at that end.
>
> Regards,
> Les H
>
> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:34 -0800, Ray Torok wrote:
>> I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck
>> just behind the pulpit.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow
>> cleats in the gap?  The idea would be to put them close enough to the
>> rail so that chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and
>> leaving the bottom part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going
>> to the cleats rub on it rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat.
>>
>>
>> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or
>> knows why it's a bad idea).
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Ray
>> THIRA  #37
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