[C38] Another Toe Rail question

[Ray Torok]

I was looking at 9" four-bolt cleats (that's the size of the single bow
cleat that came with the boat), but 8" probably would work.  Should be
interesting to see what others think.  I've been using carabiners to attach
spring lines to the rail, but having two bow cleats would be really useful,
and would also make room for a bow roller for an anchor.

Ray
THIRA  #37


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Max soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was also thinking about installing these cleats. Are Schaefer 8" four
> bolt aluminum cleats too much?? Also, I was thinking about a cleat
> amidships, but not sure if I should just get a cleat for the genoa
> tracks....  What Tom did sounds like a good option if chocks are
> required...   Should be easy to cut the toe rail... If a real chock is
> required, I'll cut the toe rail, and will look for a chock with bolts  4"
> c/c.
> Regards,
>
> Max Soto A.
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:35 PM, les <hlhowell at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > As all of you know I sold my boat, now Knee Deep, and she is on her way
> > to the east coast and up for sale.
> >
> >    I had thought of this, and I don't think it is a bad idea.  Ont thing
> I
> > thought of was using starboard to make a platform for the cleat.  It is
> > dense, doesn't rust or rot and should provide a solid platform for the
> > the cleat.  If this platform were to extend a bit over the edge, it
> > could be rounded with a router and would provide a chafe guard with
> > pretty much a slick surface which should lessen the chafing.  I don't
> > know if anyone has done this before or not, but asking on some cruising
> > websites might get some additional information.
> >
> >    However, at the same time, Cleats work best when the line of pull is
> > roughly in line with the cleat.  I think looking at the website of the
> > cleat you wish to use would be helpful.  This is why the big boats and
> > ships use cleats inboard with chocks for the fairlead.  This ensures
> > that the cleat, bits or bollock have the pull at the right angle.  For a
> > potential anchor line, having a fair lead with little chafe is pretty
> > important.
> >
> >    Dockmasters don't worry about it.  They choose the slip size and
> double
> > the size of the cleat or other line gear and just let the owners deal
> > with the chafe at that end.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Les H
> >
> > On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:34 -0800, Ray Torok wrote:
> >> I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck
> >> just behind the pulpit.
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow
> >> cleats in the gap?  The idea would be to put them close enough to the
> >> rail so that chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and
> >> leaving the bottom part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going
> >> to the cleats rub on it rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat.
> >>
> >>
> >> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or
> >> knows why it's a bad idea).
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Ray
> >> THIRA  #37
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