[C38] Another Toe Rail question

[Max soto]

I was also thinking about installing these cleats. Are Schaefer 8" four bolt aluminum cleats too much?? Also, I was thinking about a cleat amidships, but not sure if I should just get a cleat for the genoa tracks....  What Tom did sounds like a good option if chocks are required...   Should be easy to cut the toe rail... If a real chock is required, I'll cut the toe rail, and will look for a chock with bolts  4" c/c.
Regards, 

Max Soto A.
+506-8312-1367
Alajuela, Costa Rica

On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:35 PM, les <hlhowell at pacbell.net> wrote:

> As all of you know I sold my boat, now Knee Deep, and she is on her way
> to the east coast and up for sale.
> 
>    I had thought of this, and I don't think it is a bad idea.  Ont thing I
> thought of was using starboard to make a platform for the cleat.  It is
> dense, doesn't rust or rot and should provide a solid platform for the
> the cleat.  If this platform were to extend a bit over the edge, it
> could be rounded with a router and would provide a chafe guard with
> pretty much a slick surface which should lessen the chafing.  I don't
> know if anyone has done this before or not, but asking on some cruising
> websites might get some additional information.
> 
>    However, at the same time, Cleats work best when the line of pull is
> roughly in line with the cleat.  I think looking at the website of the
> cleat you wish to use would be helpful.  This is why the big boats and
> ships use cleats inboard with chocks for the fairlead.  This ensures
> that the cleat, bits or bollock have the pull at the right angle.  For a
> potential anchor line, having a fair lead with little chafe is pretty
> important.
> 
>    Dockmasters don't worry about it.  They choose the slip size and double
> the size of the cleat or other line gear and just let the owners deal
> with the chafe at that end.  
> 
> Regards,
> Les H
> 
> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:34 -0800, Ray Torok wrote:
>> I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck
>> just behind the pulpit.
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow
>> cleats in the gap?  The idea would be to put them close enough to the
>> rail so that chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and
>> leaving the bottom part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going
>> to the cleats rub on it rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat.  
>> 
>> 
>> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or
>> knows why it's a bad idea).
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Ray
>> THIRA  #37
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