[C38] Whisker pole suggestions

Fri May 17 12:23:20 EDT 2013

I'll expand a bit on the whisker pole issue.  We were doing a race from Long
Beach CA to Newport Beach CA and had great winds.  Our spinnaker pole was
not operable, I don't remember why but it was, we decided to try the whisker
pole as a spinnaker pole.  It worked find for a short distance, a sudden
gust of wind and the pole bent like a hairpin.  They are not cheap, lesson
learned.  BTW we have ours locked down on the deck with the fittings usually
used for a spinnaker pole, works fine and we lash the reaching strut to the
whisker pole too.

Larry Malmberg

7231 Boulder Avenue #507

Highland, CA 92346

Telephone:  909-208-1847

Fascimiline: 909-991-7568

E Mail:  larrypi at roadrunner.com

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; "WOW-- What a
Ride!"

From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Ray Torok
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:07 AM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Whisker pole suggestions

I agree with Larry.  In my experience, spinnaker poles are shorter and
stouter than whisker poles.

two cents,

Ray

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Larry Malmberg <larrypi at roadrunner.com>
wrote:

Pierre, I would NOT suggest trying to use the whisker pole for a spinnaker
pole, you'll likely bend the heck out of it.  Take it from one that knows.
LOL

Larry Malmberg

7231 Boulder Avenue #507

Highland, CA 92346

Telephone:  909-208-1847

Fascimiline: 909-991-7568

E Mail:  larrypi at roadrunner.com

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; "WOW-- What a
Ride!"

From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Patino
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:28 AM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Whisker pole suggestions

Hello people

Thanks for the very good information. I just "wasted" two hours poring over
the recommendations from Forespar and I think I understand the bits I need.
I agree with Ray's pole length assessment. My partner however suggested we
get a longer pole in case we'd ever want to use it as a spinnaker pole. I'm
not sure that's possible of even desirable (a testament of our ignorance and
incompetence). We are not racers but we like to tinker.

I think the pole-stowing is the way to go. I hadn't thought about the track
length and I thank Ray for pointing it out. I assumed my mast's track length
must be the same as everyone's. I don't know how that's decided at new-boat
purchase time but I certainly wasn't part of the process. I'm getting on the
bosun's chair this weekend anyway for other repairs and will measure it.

There's a site which is quoting around $1800 for pole, chocks and car (not
counting shipping). That's about 600 pints of beer or 150 standard happy
hour evenings...

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Ray Torok <torok13731 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Pierre,

At a recent boat show I asked the Forespar rep about this.  He steered me to
the next size smaller version of the one you are looking at - part no.
402200.  This is also the one that the selection guide on the Forespar
website likes http://www.forespar.com/whisker2011.shtml#C_LIST

 It telescopes out to 22 feet, which seems like plenty for anything I would
do, and is significantly lighter than the 403200 (27 lbs. vs. 38 lbs.).

The Forespar guy also liked the idea of stowing it on the mast, as you never
have to carry the whole thing around on the foredeck with the ends banging
around, and never have to carry the full weight of it.  However, the track
on my mast is not long enough to stow even the 402200 against the mast.  He
suggested adding track at the top, which is probably what I will do.  It
means drilling and tapping while hanging in a bosun's chair, but should be
doable.

On the Forespar website, it says the 'ring' style mast cars cannot be used
for vertical stowing against the mast.
http://www.forespar.com/products/sail-mast-car.shtml

That drives you to the T-125-S mast car, which is pretty pricey, and the
402201 pole, which has the inboard end fitting that goes with the T-125-S.

I suggest you go over all this with the Forespar folks before buying
anything.

Good luck,

Ray

C38 #37

Thira

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Pierre Patino <pierre.patino at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello gurus

I'm about to buy my first whisker pole. I'm looking at this one:

http://www.forespar.com/products/line-control-whisker-pole-aluminum.shtml

Part number 403200 (for up to 46' boats)

I don't plan on using it on the 160% genoa since there's already enough wind
for the 110% jib.

I'd like to know what hardware I need for affixing to the mast where I plan
to store it. I've never bought any cars for the T-track on the mast which I
assume is standard 1 1/4".

Is this the only bit I need?

http://www.marine.com/forespar-rc125-mast-p-28367.html

Thanks for your wisdom and precious time

Cheers

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