[C38] Whisker pole suggestions

Fri May 17 12:38:54 EDT 2013

And another thought.  If you're not worried about racing, you might look at
getting an asymmetric spinnaker.  Eliminates a lot of the hassle of dealing
with a symmetric chute, and you don't need a spinnaker pole!  I understand
that some people wing them out on a whisker pole like a large jib, but I
have no first hand experience with that.

Ray
C38#37
Thira

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Larry Malmberg <larrypi at roadrunner.com>wrote:

> I’ll expand a bit on the whisker pole issue.  We were doing a race from
> Long Beach CA to Newport Beach CA and had great winds.  Our spinnaker pole
> was not operable, I don’t remember why but it was, we decided to try the
> whisker pole as a spinnaker pole.  It worked find for a short distance, a
> sudden gust of wind and the pole bent like a hairpin.  They are not cheap,
> lesson learned.  BTW we have ours locked down on the deck with the fittings
> usually used for a spinnaker pole, works fine and we lash the reaching
> strut to the whisker pole too.****
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:
> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Ray Torok
> *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2013 9:07 AM
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> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Whisker pole suggestions****
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> I agree with Larry.  In my experience, spinnaker poles are shorter and
> stouter than whisker poles.****
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> two cents,****
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> Ray****
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> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Larry Malmberg <larrypi at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:****
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> Pierre, I would NOT suggest trying to use the whisker pole for a spinnaker
> pole, you’ll likely bend the heck out of it.  Take it from one that knows.
> LOL****
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> Larry Malmberg****
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> 7231 Boulder Avenue #507****
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> Highland, CA 92346****
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> Telephone:  909-208-1847****
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> Fascimiline: 909-991-7568****
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> E Mail:  larrypi at roadrunner.com****
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> Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
> in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; "WOW-- What a
> Ride!"****
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:
> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Pierre Patino
> *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2013 8:28 AM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Whisker pole suggestions****
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> Hello people
>
> Thanks for the very good information. I just "wasted" two hours poring
> over the recommendations from Forespar and I think I understand the bits I
> need. I agree with Ray's pole length assessment. My partner however
> suggested we get a longer pole in case we'd ever want to use it as a
> spinnaker pole. I'm not sure that's possible of even desirable (a testament
> of our ignorance and incompetence). We are not racers but we like to tinker.
> ****
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> I think the pole-stowing is the way to go. I hadn't thought about the
> track length and I thank Ray for pointing it out. I assumed my mast's track
> length must be the same as everyone's. I don't know how that's decided at
> new-boat purchase time but I certainly wasn't part of the process. I'm
> getting on the bosun's chair this weekend anyway for other repairs and will
> measure it.****
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> There's a site which is quoting around $1800 for pole, chocks and car (not
> counting shipping). That's about 600 pints of beer or 150 standard happy
> hour evenings...****
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> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Ray Torok <torok13731 at gmail.com> wrote:**
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> Hi Pierre,****
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> At a recent boat show I asked the Forespar rep about this.  He steered me
> to the next size smaller version of the one you are looking at - part no.
> 402200.  This is also the one that the selection guide on the Forespar
> website likes http://www.forespar.com/whisker2011.shtml#C_LIST****
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>  It telescopes out to 22 feet, which seems like plenty for anything I
> would do, and is significantly lighter than the 403200 (27 lbs. vs. 38
> lbs.).****
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> The Forespar guy also liked the idea of stowing it on the mast, as you
> never have to carry the whole thing around on the foredeck with the ends
> banging around, and never have to carry the full weight of it.  However,
> the track on my mast is not long enough to stow even the 402200 against the
> mast.  He suggested adding track at the top, which is probably what I will
> do.  It means drilling and tapping while hanging in a bosun's chair, but
> should be doable.****
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> On the Forespar website, it says the 'ring' style mast cars cannot be used
> for vertical stowing against the mast.
> http://www.forespar.com/products/sail-mast-car.shtml****
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> That drives you to the T-125-S mast car, which is pretty pricey, and the
> 402201 pole, which has the inboard end fitting that goes with the T-125-S.
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> I suggest you go over all this with the Forespar folks before buying
> anything.****
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> Good luck,****
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> Ray****
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> C38 #37****
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> Thira****
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> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Pierre Patino <pierre.patino at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hello gurus****
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> I'm about to buy my first whisker pole. I'm looking at this one:****
>
> http://www.forespar.com/products/line-control-whisker-pole-aluminum.shtml*
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> Part number 403200 (for up to 46' boats)****
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> I don't plan on using it on the 160% genoa since there's already enough
> wind for the 110% jib.****
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> I'd like to know what hardware I need for affixing to the mast where I
> plan to store it. I've never bought any cars for the T-track on the mast
> which I assume is standard 1 1/4".****
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> Is this the only bit I need?****
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> http://www.marine.com/forespar-rc125-mast-p-28367.html****
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> Thanks for your wisdom and precious time****
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