[C38] steering post leak

Max soto maxsoto at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 16:33:02 EDT 2014 

Well done Mark! 
BTW, is that the starting battery crawling out of the lazzarete??

Max Soto A.
+506-8312-1367
Alajuela, Costa Rica

> On Sep 30, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Mark Lewis <mwlewis2025 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Max,
> 
> I was patient collecting parts at Minney's and swap meets.  Edson pedestal and wheel.  Couldn't find an 8" quadrant but did find a 6" Edson quadrant.  I used an oversized wheel (36") which compensates for the smaller quadrant, so the steering force is about the same with the advantage that mine steers faster with less travel stop to stop, because of the smaller quadrant.  A racing setup, but I don't race.
> 
> Two pics:  Rudder tube cutout (pole is holding rudder down out of the way - buoyant, wants to float up!), and pedestal installed with old shift and throtte still attached at bottom - since moved to pedestal like rest of fleet.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good job Mark! That was quite a job! 
>> Where did you find the steering quadrant??  Found an Edson, or adapted another one??
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Max Soto 
>> +506-8312-1367
>> Alajuela, Costa Rica 
>> 
>>> On 29/09/2014, at 16:21, Mark Lewis <mwlewis2025 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Converted from tiller to wheel and added a packing gland to "cut-out" rudder post. I put a harness on the rudder to prevent it dropping out, and much to my surprise and delight, the rudder floats and I had to push it down to get it out of the way to cut the tube for the quadrant and packing gland.  Mine doesn't leak, even when underway, motor or sail.  Got the packing gland used from Minney's (SoCal), so it was not a factory original.
>>> 
>>> Mark Lewis
>>> Pokai - #6
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM, David Stoltz <sportscinema at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Does the boat have to be hauled, or can I do it with the boat in the water? Will the rudder drop if I remove the 3 nuts at the top
>>>> of the rudder post?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Mixed Business wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only way to access the the quadrant and post and cables is through the quarter berth access. Get all the ratchet extensions you have and a breaker bar to get the quadrant loose. Seriously like All the extensions you have. One guy working in the quarter berth on his stomach and another in the sail locker in the engine access. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Too me and two others 4 hours to break it all loose... UNdo the cables and drop the rudder. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have fun. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> Momentous 230
>>>>> Balt. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 2:06 PM, David Stoltz <sportscinema at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I finally got around to dealing with the rudder post this weekend and discovered that there does not seem to be a way to access it, except from below deck.
>>>>>> I removed the floor form the rear lazaret thinking I could get to it that way...wrong (see photo). Also checked under the both cockpit benches for possible
>>>>>> access. Any suggestions?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, when I removed the rear lazaret floorboard I discovered a copper strip (see photo) that did not seem to connect to anything on either end, but that could be because of corrosion. Is this something that needs to be replaced and if so, does it connect to anything?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> <photo 1.JPG>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, S Orton wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David,  First look at the top of the gland and see if the gland can be tighten- should be 3 nuts.  If the gland is bottomed out, just add another ring of packing- 5/16" I believe.  This is the hard part, as you have to completely back off the three nuts (or bolts?) pry up the gland  cap, and put in another ring of packing into the stuffing box, and tighten up the cap.  When I say a ring of packing, I mean a linear piece of packing formed tightly around the rudder post and spliced together with a 45 degree cut.  You are not removing the rudder post cap at the aft locker, so you don't need to worry about dropping your rudder and the upper part of the gland you are working on is above the water line. 
>>>>>>> Good luck and as everyone will agree, this job is a bitch.  Steve O (#304)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > From: sportscinema at earthlink.net
>>>>>>> > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:26 -0700
>>>>>>> > To: listserve at catalina38.org
>>>>>>> > Subject: [C38] steering post leak
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Hi all, noticed more water than usual in the bilge after a round trip to Catalina. Discovered yesterday that it's coming in from the top of the rudder post
>>>>>>> > when under power.
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Questions;
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Is there a packing in there that can be replaced?
>>>>>>> > If so, how do I access it?
>>>>>>> > Is this something I can do with the boat in the water?
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Thanks, always appreciate all your help.
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > David Stoltz
>>>>>>> > Andiamo #297
>>>>>>> > MDR, CA
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > 
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