[C38] steering post leak

Thu Oct 2 17:22:27 EDT 2014

Yes, I keep it in stern lazzerete
On Oct 2, 2014 1:33 PM, "Max soto" <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well done Mark!
> BTW, is that the starting battery crawling out of the lazzarete??
>
> Max Soto A.
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Sep 30, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Mark Lewis <mwlewis2025 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Max,
>
> I was patient collecting parts at Minney's and swap meets.  Edson pedestal
> and wheel.  Couldn't find an 8" quadrant but did find a 6" Edson quadrant.
> I used an oversized wheel (36") which compensates for the smaller quadrant,
> so the steering force is about the same with the advantage that mine steers
> faster with less travel stop to stop, because of the smaller quadrant.  A
> racing setup, but I don't race.
>
> Two pics:  Rudder tube cutout (pole is holding rudder down out of the way
> - buoyant, wants to float up!), and pedestal installed with old shift and
> throtte still attached at bottom - since moved to pedestal like rest of
> fleet.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good job Mark! That was quite a job!
>> Where did you find the steering quadrant??  Found an Edson, or adapted
>> another one??
>> Regards,
>>
>> Max Soto
>> +506-8312-1367
>> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>>
>> On 29/09/2014, at 16:21, Mark Lewis <mwlewis2025 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Converted from tiller to wheel and added a packing gland to "cut-out"
>> rudder post. I put a harness on the rudder to prevent it dropping out, and
>> much to my surprise and delight, the rudder floats and I had to push it
>> down to get it out of the way to cut the tube for the quadrant and packing
>> gland.  Mine doesn't leak, even when underway, motor or sail.  Got the
>> packing gland used from Minney's (SoCal), so it was not a factory original.
>>
>> Mark Lewis
>> Pokai - #6
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM, David Stoltz <sportscinema at earthlink.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Does the boat have to be hauled, or can I
>>> do it with the boat in the water? Will the rudder drop if I remove the 3
>>> nuts at the top
>>> of the rudder post?
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Mixed Business wrote:
>>>
>>> The only way to access the the quadrant and post and cables is through
>>> the quarter berth access. Get all the ratchet extensions you have and a
>>> breaker bar to get the quadrant loose. Seriously like All the extensions
>>> you have. One guy working in the quarter berth on his stomach and another
>>> in the sail locker in the engine access.
>>>
>>> Too me and two others 4 hours to break it all loose... UNdo the cables
>>> and drop the rudder.
>>>
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> Momentous 230
>>> Balt.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 2:06 PM, David Stoltz <sportscinema at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> I finally got around to dealing with the rudder post this weekend and
>>> discovered that there does not seem to be a way to access it, except from
>>> below deck.
>>> I removed the floor form the rear lazaret thinking I could get to it
>>> that way...wrong (see photo). Also checked under the both cockpit benches
>>> for possible
>>> access. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Also, when I removed the rear lazaret floorboard I discovered a copper
>>> strip (see photo) that did not seem to connect to anything on either end,
>>> but that could be because of corrosion. Is this something that needs to be
>>> replaced and if so, does it connect to anything?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> David
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, S Orton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> David,  First look at the top of the gland and see if the gland can be
>>> tighten- should be 3 nuts.  If the gland is bottomed out, just add another
>>> ring of packing- 5/16" I believe.  This is the hard part, as you have to
>>> completely back off the three nuts (or bolts?) pry up the gland  cap, and
>>> put in another ring of packing into the stuffing box, and tighten up
>>> the cap.  When I say a ring of packing, I mean a linear piece of packing
>>> formed tightly around the rudder post and spliced together with a 45 degree
>>> cut.  You are not removing the rudder post cap at the aft locker, so you
>>> don't need to worry about dropping your rudder and the upper part of the
>>> gland you are working on is above the water line.
>>> Good luck and as everyone will agree, this job is a bitch.  Steve O
>>> (#304)
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: sportscinema at earthlink.net
>>> > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:26 -0700
>>> > To: listserve at catalina38.org
>>> > Subject: [C38] steering post leak
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all, noticed more water than usual in the bilge after a round trip
>>> to Catalina. Discovered yesterday that it's coming in from the top of the
>>> rudder post
>>> > when under power.
>>> >
>>> > Questions;
>>> >
>>> > Is there a packing in there that can be replaced?
>>> > If so, how do I access it?
>>> > Is this something I can do with the boat in the water?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, always appreciate all your help.
>>> >
>>> > David Stoltz
>>> > Andiamo #297
>>> > MDR, CA
>>> >
>>> >
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