[C38] Dock Lines

S Orton ssorton at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 28 20:22:36 EDT 2018

Another thought:  I buy a good quality 1/2 inch, 3 strand nylon (yes nylon) line in bulk and replace the dock lines as needed probably every 3-4 years as chaffing demands and use no protection.  The down side of nylon of course is UV degradation, but chaffing destroys it first.  The good side is 3 strand nylon is a lot more elastic (elasticity is a good trait for dock lines) than braided low stretch dock lines which have are more UV resistant, but again it is chaffing that destroys your lines.  At our marina we share a 40 ft slip.  We use 2 long spring lines, a very short stern line and 2 medium length bow lines.  The 3 strand line is very easy to make with custom lengths and a  spliced loop.  In the 20 years owning our boat, we have never had a dock line failure.  The last 8 years, the boat has been in the NW where we get considerable boat movement as storms rolls through.
Cheers,  Steve O (Santa Susanna)
From: Listserve <listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> on behalf of Larrypi at earthlink.net <Larrypi at earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Dock Lines

Thanks Chuck, I think you and Max Soto have the right answer.

Larry Malmberg


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From: Listserve <listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> On Behalf Of Charles Finn
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:27 AM
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I consider one of the design errors S&S and Catalina made on our boat is the bow mooring/dock cleat setup.  Works great at anchor or on a mooring, but requires we run dock lines over the rail when at a dock, which most boats are these days.  Frankly, I don't think any chaffing will work well sawing on the rail.  So, I installed a couple guides in a portion of the rail that was easily removed.  They are quite secure as they are bolted through the bottom portion of the rail.
This still does not answer the problem of where the bow cleat is located, but at least I am not sawing off lines!  I did this a couple years ago after finding significant wear on a new set of lines over just one summer.  So far, I have seen no chaffing in two years even though we have had some pretty violent weather!
BTW,  I vote for leather chaffing gear as fire hose is water proof and most chaffing failure is due to the heat generated that can be cooled if the chaffing gear lets water into the line.

Chuck Finn
Mighty Quinn  #114
Bayfield, Lake Superior

On 9/27/2018 12:01 PM, Larrypi at earthlink.net<mailto:Larrypi at earthlink.net> wrote:

I have a question, I just ordered new dock lines for Hassle.  Typically they wear out due to the toe rail rubbing on them.  What can you all suggest to prevent this?  I was thinking about some shrink wrap but don’t know.  I have used old fire hose before but it kept coming off.

Larry Malmberg


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