[C38] floor cut cockpit locker .

[Don Strong]

Russ: I gotta get these photos to you.
I cut the floor completely out, gave up trying to engineer hinges to fold 
it back. The bungee yanks it up under the rail and I lean back against it . 
Take a deep breath before descending ( who designs these engine compartments?).
Don

At 07:52 AM 02/13/2006, Duff, Russ (R.W.) wrote:
>I think I'm getting a better idea of what things look like. At first I 
>thought you cut out the floor and side wall as one large L-shaped 
>piece.  It now sounds like the side wall is a separate piece from the 
>floor (Thanks to Don's comments).  You remove your sidewall first (Tom) 
>then reach underneath to remove the wingnuts, then remove the separate 
>floor piece. Tom, do you then take the floor section right out of the 
>locker, or fold it back like Don does?  If either of you guys could do it 
>again, how would you do it different/better?  Hopefully I can use what you 
>learned.
>
>Everyone on this list is just full of great ideas!
>
>Sincerely,
>Russ Duff
>Catalina 38, Hull #112
>"AVANTURA"
>Lake Erie
>Grosse Ile, Michigan
>RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom T. [mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net]
>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:31 AM
>To: Russ (R.W.) Duff
>Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>
>Right Russ!  If you don't make your cut up the inboard side of the sail 
>locker, you have accomplished little.  The whole idea is to make it easy 
>to get into the engine compartment but by also making access below the 
>locker makes an added plus.
>
>Thanks for bringing this oversight up.  Because the inboard corner of the 
>sail locker will now be cut out, you will need to secure the false bottom 
>with screws or wing nuts from underneath to keep the false bottom 
>secured.  I used wing nuts accessed from below but if I did the procedure 
>again, I think I'd just screw the bottom in place.  I wanted access 
>without having to use tools but reaching around and into the area below 
>the false floor and working the wing nuts is a royal pain.  If you drop a 
>stainless steel wing nut, they hide forever under the engine, 
>transmission, etc and laugh at you if you try to retrieve them with a 
>magnet so I'm sure the best way to fasten the floor down is using self 
>tapping screws in 4 corners of the floor.
>
>Tom Troncalli
>The Renata #95
>Sunny snowless St. Pete, Fla
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rduff at visteon.com>Duff, Russ (R.W.)
>To: 
><mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>tdtron at earthlink.net;<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>Catalina 
>38 Listserve
>Sent: 2/13/2006 9:49:44 AM
>Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>
>If I recall, you continued the cut up the sidewall of the locker?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Russ Duff
>Catalina 38, Hull #112
>"AVANTURA"
>Lake Erie
>Grosse Ile, Michigan
>RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>[mailto:Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Tom T.
>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:17 PM
>To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>
>
>Hi Russ and gang,
>
>This is an old sketch of the cutout I made when I cut out my sail locker 
>floor.  I made reinforcements to go between the angle aluminum to pads 
>bonded to the hull to give strength to the floor.
>
>I don't have a photo but you really can't go wrong as long as you don't 
>try to get too close to the outside edge against the hull because the hull 
>wraps under the sail locker and if you don't leave at least a couple of 
>inches of lip you won't have enough room for the angle aluminum underneath 
>that's  needed to make a lip for the cutout to sit on.
>
>I countersunk my bolts holding the aluminum leaving a smooth flush surface 
>on the sail locker floor.
>
>Replacing the rotten wood steering stop is not fun but at least it's 
>possible now without being 2' tall or removing the engine.  I went back 
>with wood but I used cell cured treated lumber instead of standard wood 
>which as we now know can and will rot.
>
>I have my water pump and water filter mounted under the forward original 
>section of the locker floor which is about 7" wide from the cutout to the 
>forward bulkhead.  Putting them there is out of the way, easy to get to 
>when needed, and the pump is very quiet.
>
>I am strongly of the opinion that the sail locker should have had a false 
>floor from the factory but at least this is a modification that we can 
>easily do.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Tom Troncalli
>The Renata hull #95
>St. Pete, Fla
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rduff at visteon.com>Duff, Russ (R.W.)
>To: <mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>C38-List (Listserve at catalina38.org)
>Sent: 2/7/2006 2:24:15 PM
>Subject: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>
>This year I am finally going to remove my steering pedestal to replace the 
>rotten wood underneath it.  To make the job a little easier, I want to cut 
>out the floor of the port cockpit locker like discussed in this list a 
>couple of years ago ('03? Thanks to Tom T. and Don Strong).  If you have 
>any pictures of your modification, could you please send them to me, I 
>would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks.
>
>Sincerely,
>Russ Duff
>Catalina 38, Hull #112
>"AVANTURA"
>Lake Erie
>Grosse Ile, Michigan
>RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
>
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Donald R. Strong
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Section of Ecology and Evolution
                  and
Bodega Marine Laboratory
Division of Biological Sciences
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