[C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
Tom T.
tdtron at earthlink.net
Tue Jun 13 22:48:42 EDT 2006
Hi Max,
I just included the port sail locker mods in the next issue of Mainsheet
magazine in the Catalina 38 technical department if you care to wait.
Tom Troncalli
The Renata #95
St. Pete, Fla
> [Original Message]
> From: Max Soto <maxsoto at hotmail.com>
> To: <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: 6/13/2006 10:41:28 PM
> Subject: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Could some one please send me some photos about the port cockpit locker
> mods, I'm thinking of doing the same on Estancia.
>
> It will also be great if Charles could put them on the web page under
> tech-tips.
>
> Thanks
>
> Max
>
>
> >From: "Philip Gay" <eyriepg at msn.com>
> >Reply-To: Catalina 38 Listserve <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> >To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> >Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:24:12 -0700
> >
> >MessageRuss and all,
> >
> >I can't take credit for the port cockpit locker cut out on Que Linda but
it
> >works well for me:
> >
> >On the original boat there is a large access hole in the vertical
inboard
> >wall of the cockpit locker. The previous owner, in order to make
replacing
> >the engine easier, cut the floor liner down along the vertical lip (near
> >the forward end of the access hole) turned outboard to within a few
inches
> >of where the floor meets the bottom of the boat. He then went straight
> >back (avoiding cutting the bottom of the boat) and turned inboard and up
> >the vertical inboard wall (again near the aft end of the access hole).
The
> >cutout is an "L" shaped piece of fiberglass to which he bolted 4
stainless
> >plates (the plates have 4 holes, 2 of which are bolted to the cutout).
> >These stainless plates overlap the remaining locker floor and bolts
simply
> >drop into these holes through the plates and the floor beneath the
plates.
> >The stainless plates provide plenty of support for the locker floor
cutout
> >and the cutout can be completely removed from the locker. The original
> >fiberboard access panel cover fits neatly over the original hole. I
find
> >that I need all the space I need all the available space in the locker
area
> >to contort my body.
> >
> >Phil Gay
> >C38 049 Que Linda
> >Everett, WA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > To: 'tdtron at earthlink.net'<mailto:'tdtron at earthlink.net'> ; C38-List
> >(Listserve at catalina38.org)<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org)>
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> >
> > I think I'm getting a better idea of what things look like. At first
I
> >thought you cut out the floor and side wall as one large L-shaped piece.
> >It now sounds like the side wall is a separate piece from the floor
(Thanks
> >to Don's comments). You remove your sidewall first (Tom) then reach
> >underneath to remove the wingnuts, then remove the separate floor piece.
> >Tom, do you then take the floor section right out of the locker, or fold
it
> >back like Don does? If either of you guys could do it again, how would
you
> >do it different/better? Hopefully I can use what you learned.
> >
> > Everyone on this list is just full of great ideas!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Russ Duff
> > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > "AVANTURA"
> > Lake Erie
> > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom T. [mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:31 AM
> > To: Russ (R.W.) Duff
> > Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> >
> > Right Russ! If you don't make your cut up the inboard side of the
sail
> >locker, you have accomplished little. The whole idea is to make it easy
to
> >get into the engine compartment but by also making access below the
locker
> >makes an added plus.
> >
> > Thanks for bringing this oversight up. Because the inboard corner of
> >the sail locker will now be cut out, you will need to secure the false
> >bottom with screws or wing nuts from underneath to keep the false bottom
> >secured. I used wing nuts accessed from below but if I did the
procedure
> >again, I think I'd just screw the bottom in place. I wanted access
without
> >having to use tools but reaching around and into the area below the
false
> >floor and working the wing nuts is a royal pain. If you drop a
stainless
> >steel wing nut, they hide forever under the engine, transmission, etc
and
> >laugh at you if you try to retrieve them with a magnet so I'm sure the
best
> >way to fasten the floor down is using self tapping screws in 4 corners
of
> >the floor.
> >
> > Tom Troncalli
> > The Renata #95
> > Sunny snowless St. Pete, Fla
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > To: tdtron at earthlink.net<mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>;Catalina 38
> >Listserve<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Sent: 2/13/2006 9:49:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> >
> > If I recall, you continued the cut up the sidewall of the locker?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Russ Duff
> > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > "AVANTURA"
> > Lake Erie
> > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> >[mailto:Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Tom T.
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:17 PM
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Russ and gang,
> >
> > This is an old sketch of the cutout I made when I cut out my sail
> >locker floor. I made reinforcements to go between the angle aluminum to
> >pads bonded to the hull to give strength to the floor.
> >
> > I don't have a photo but you really can't go wrong as long as you
> >don't try to get too close to the outside edge against the hull because
the
> >hull wraps under the sail locker and if you don't leave at least a
couple
> >of inches of lip you won't have enough room for the angle aluminum
> >underneath that's needed to make a lip for the cutout to sit on.
> >
> > I countersunk my bolts holding the aluminum leaving a smooth flush
> >surface on the sail locker floor.
> >
> > Replacing the rotten wood steering stop is not fun but at least
it's
> >possible now without being 2' tall or removing the engine. I went back
> >with wood but I used cell cured treated lumber instead of standard wood
> >which as we now know can and will rot.
> >
> > I have my water pump and water filter mounted under the forward
> >original section of the locker floor which is about 7" wide from the
cutout
> >to the forward bulkhead. Putting them there is out of the way, easy to
get
> >to when needed, and the pump is very quiet.
> >
> > I am strongly of the opinion that the sail locker should have had a
> >false floor from the factory but at least this is a modification that we
> >can easily do.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Tom Troncalli
> > The Renata hull #95
> > St. Pete, Fla
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > To: C38-List
> >(Listserve at catalina38.org)<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Sent: 2/7/2006 2:24:15 PM
> > Subject: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> >
> > This year I am finally going to remove my steering pedestal to
> >replace the rotten wood underneath it. To make the job a little easier,
I
> >want to cut out the floor of the port cockpit locker like discussed in
this
> >list a couple of years ago ('03? Thanks to Tom T. and Don Strong). If
you
> >have any pictures of your modification, could you please send them to
me, I
> >would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Russ Duff
> > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > "AVANTURA"
> > Lake Erie
> > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> >
> >
> >
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