[C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
Max Soto
maxsoto at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 15 11:00:41 EDT 2006
Tom,
I don't get the Mainsheet magazine here, do you mind mailing the photos??
Thanks
Max
>From: "Tom T." <tdtron at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: tdtron at earthlink.net,Catalina 38 Listserve
><listserve at catalina38.org>
>To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
>Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:48:42 -0400
>
>
>Hi Max,
>
>I just included the port sail locker mods in the next issue of Mainsheet
>magazine in the Catalina 38 technical department if you care to wait.
>
>Tom Troncalli
>The Renata #95
>St. Pete, Fla
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Max Soto <maxsoto at hotmail.com>
> > To: <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Date: 6/13/2006 10:41:28 PM
> > Subject: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > Could some one please send me some photos about the port cockpit locker
> > mods, I'm thinking of doing the same on Estancia.
> >
> > It will also be great if Charles could put them on the web page under
> > tech-tips.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > >From: "Philip Gay" <eyriepg at msn.com>
> > >Reply-To: Catalina 38 Listserve <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > >To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:24:12 -0700
> > >
> > >MessageRuss and all,
> > >
> > >I can't take credit for the port cockpit locker cut out on Que Linda
>but
>it
> > >works well for me:
> > >
> > >On the original boat there is a large access hole in the vertical
>inboard
> > >wall of the cockpit locker. The previous owner, in order to make
>replacing
> > >the engine easier, cut the floor liner down along the vertical lip
>(near
> > >the forward end of the access hole) turned outboard to within a few
>inches
> > >of where the floor meets the bottom of the boat. He then went straight
> > >back (avoiding cutting the bottom of the boat) and turned inboard and
>up
> > >the vertical inboard wall (again near the aft end of the access hole).
>The
> > >cutout is an "L" shaped piece of fiberglass to which he bolted 4
>stainless
> > >plates (the plates have 4 holes, 2 of which are bolted to the cutout).
> > >These stainless plates overlap the remaining locker floor and bolts
>simply
> > >drop into these holes through the plates and the floor beneath the
>plates.
> > >The stainless plates provide plenty of support for the locker floor
>cutout
> > >and the cutout can be completely removed from the locker. The original
> > >fiberboard access panel cover fits neatly over the original hole. I
>find
> > >that I need all the space I need all the available space in the locker
>area
> > >to contort my body.
> > >
> > >Phil Gay
> > >C38 049 Que Linda
> > >Everett, WA
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > > To: 'tdtron at earthlink.net'<mailto:'tdtron at earthlink.net'> ; C38-List
> > >(Listserve at catalina38.org)<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org)>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think I'm getting a better idea of what things look like. At first
>I
> > >thought you cut out the floor and side wall as one large L-shaped
>piece.
>
> > >It now sounds like the side wall is a separate piece from the floor
>(Thanks
> > >to Don's comments). You remove your sidewall first (Tom) then reach
> > >underneath to remove the wingnuts, then remove the separate floor
>piece.
> > >Tom, do you then take the floor section right out of the locker, or
>fold
>it
> > >back like Don does? If either of you guys could do it again, how would
>you
> > >do it different/better? Hopefully I can use what you learned.
> > >
> > > Everyone on this list is just full of great ideas!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Russ Duff
> > > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > > "AVANTURA"
> > > Lake Erie
> > > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom T. [mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:31 AM
> > > To: Russ (R.W.) Duff
> > > Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >
> > >
> > > Right Russ! If you don't make your cut up the inboard side of the
>sail
> > >locker, you have accomplished little. The whole idea is to make it
>easy
>to
> > >get into the engine compartment but by also making access below the
>locker
> > >makes an added plus.
> > >
> > > Thanks for bringing this oversight up. Because the inboard corner
>of
> > >the sail locker will now be cut out, you will need to secure the false
> > >bottom with screws or wing nuts from underneath to keep the false
>bottom
> > >secured. I used wing nuts accessed from below but if I did the
>procedure
> > >again, I think I'd just screw the bottom in place. I wanted access
>without
> > >having to use tools but reaching around and into the area below the
>false
> > >floor and working the wing nuts is a royal pain. If you drop a
>stainless
> > >steel wing nut, they hide forever under the engine, transmission, etc
>and
> > >laugh at you if you try to retrieve them with a magnet so I'm sure the
>best
> > >way to fasten the floor down is using self tapping screws in 4 corners
>of
> > >the floor.
> > >
> > > Tom Troncalli
> > > The Renata #95
> > > Sunny snowless St. Pete, Fla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > > To: tdtron at earthlink.net<mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>;Catalina 38
> > >Listserve<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > > Sent: 2/13/2006 9:49:44 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >
> > >
> > > If I recall, you continued the cut up the sidewall of the locker?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Russ Duff
> > > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > > "AVANTURA"
> > > Lake Erie
> > > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > >[mailto:Listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Tom T.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:17 PM
> > > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Russ and gang,
> > >
> > > This is an old sketch of the cutout I made when I cut out my sail
> > >locker floor. I made reinforcements to go between the angle aluminum
>to
> > >pads bonded to the hull to give strength to the floor.
> > >
> > > I don't have a photo but you really can't go wrong as long as you
> > >don't try to get too close to the outside edge against the hull because
>the
> > >hull wraps under the sail locker and if you don't leave at least a
>couple
> > >of inches of lip you won't have enough room for the angle aluminum
> > >underneath that's needed to make a lip for the cutout to sit on.
> > >
> > > I countersunk my bolts holding the aluminum leaving a smooth flush
> > >surface on the sail locker floor.
> > >
> > > Replacing the rotten wood steering stop is not fun but at least
>it's
> > >possible now without being 2' tall or removing the engine. I went back
> > >with wood but I used cell cured treated lumber instead of standard wood
> > >which as we now know can and will rot.
> > >
> > > I have my water pump and water filter mounted under the forward
> > >original section of the locker floor which is about 7" wide from the
>cutout
> > >to the forward bulkhead. Putting them there is out of the way, easy to
>get
> > >to when needed, and the pump is very quiet.
> > >
> > > I am strongly of the opinion that the sail locker should have had
>a
> > >false floor from the factory but at least this is a modification that
>we
> > >can easily do.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > Tom Troncalli
> > > The Renata hull #95
> > > St. Pete, Fla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Duff, Russ (R.W.)<mailto:rduff at visteon.com>
> > > To: C38-List
> > >(Listserve at catalina38.org)<mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
> > > Sent: 2/7/2006 2:24:15 PM
> > > Subject: [C38] Photos of Port cockpit locker mods.
> > >
> > >
> > > This year I am finally going to remove my steering pedestal to
> > >replace the rotten wood underneath it. To make the job a little
>easier,
>I
> > >want to cut out the floor of the port cockpit locker like discussed in
>this
> > >list a couple of years ago ('03? Thanks to Tom T. and Don Strong). If
>you
> > >have any pictures of your modification, could you please send them to
>me, I
> > >would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Russ Duff
> > > Catalina 38, Hull #112
> > > "AVANTURA"
> > > Lake Erie
> > > Grosse Ile, Michigan
> > > RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> > >
> > >
> > >
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