[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 3, Issue 175

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1. Re:  stern rail seats (Eldore  Wood)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:43:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Eldore Wood  <photosbyeldore at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] stern rail seats
To:  Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
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We are looking to add some seating to  Shya Amanzi - I have found some stern 
rail seating at the Catalina Direct  store that are made specifically for the 
Cat 38.  Has anyone on the forum  purchased these?  

Eldore' and  Victor

Eldore Wood <photosbyeldore at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Max,

thanks for the link.  This is just what we were  looking for to support the 
table and at an excellent price.

Cheers, Eldore'

Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com>  wrote:
Hi Eldore,

I purchased one  of this Zwaardvis table pedestals from ebay. I had to build 
a new table since  the previous owner removed it and installed a fridge on its 
 place.

Max Soto
C38 #188  ESTANCIA
Puntarenas, Costa Rica


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-TABLE-tables-Fluted-Aluminum-Table-Pedesta
l_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26451QQihZ011QQitemZ320168752697QQrdZ1QQsspagenam
eZWD1V  


2007/11/27, Alden Andre  <alden642 at comcast.net>:   
I purchased a table from  cruising concepts and love it. Email me and I will
send you some  pics.


Alden Andre
Commoore
Columbia River All Catalinal  Association
C-38  FLYBYE
503-929-8814
Alden642 at comcast.net
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1. Re: new cabin table  (Eldore Wood)
2. Re: early 20 gal fuel tanks, remove & replace  (Les)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:21:00 -0800 (PST)
From:  Eldore Wood <photosbyeldore at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] new cabin  table
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We are looking to upgrade our cabin  table on our 1982 Catalina 38.  At the
moment the table is very  awkward to manouver when having to convert the
dining area into extra  sleeping room.  The previous owners have had the 
upholstry redone  with 6 inch thick foam which, although very comfy makes it
difficult to get  your legs under the table.

Does anyone have any suggestions on where we  could find a replacement -
Iooking through the website I found pictures  showing the interior of 
Incommunicado, which shows a great  table.

Kind regards,

Eldore' and Victor


Eldore'  Wood
Photographer/Artist
Kubili Fine Art Photography
www.kubili.com  


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:47:13 -0800
From: Les  <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] early 20 gal fuel tanks,  remove & replace
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Hi, Don,
I think the slope  being referred to is between the forward end of
the
chart table and the  forward end of the kitchen cabinet, where my boat
(and I think many others)  has a step down of abort 3" as you go forward. 
I gather from some of the  mails, that some boats have a slope there.

My tank is 35 gallons, and apparently was factory installed.

by the way, to find small leaks of any fluid or air, we  use talcum 
powder.  Cheap talc will provide nice delineation where  fluid is moving,
and for some other kinds of air leaks will puff a nice  little cloud.
Also it will impart a nice smell in the process.  Do not  use it for
volatile gas leaks, because it can aggravate the flame  possibilities due
to static.  There use some of the bubble mix that  plumbers use, or kids
bubble soap or just mix up some good soapy water with  dishwashing
liquid. 

A sneaky way to find  cabin leaks is to seal the cabin, and inflate
it
with a vacuum  cleaner.  Then use bubble solution on the windows, frames,
hatches and  so forth until the leak is found.  That is a good time to 
wash the  boat, too.

Regards,
Les H

Regards,
Les H
On Tue,  2007-11-27 at 05:59 -0800, D. R. Strong wrote:
> Mark:
>   Discreet Charm is hull number 50, 1980. She has a factory  tank
> that holds ca 20 gallons. The tank is about 20 inches  square
> horizontally, about 8.5 high on the outboard (starboard) side,  and
> about 12 inches high on the inboard side. It has a pinhole leak  along
> a welded seam. My pal and I pumped the residual fuel into a  jerry can,
> then got the tank out pretty easily through the underbunk  access.
> Cutting the fuel fill hose was necessary because the hose was  fused to 
> the aluminum fill. I have been told that learned that in  California
> shops either cannot by law or will no not by sanity weld  tanks that
> have held fuel; it is not worth a drive to Reno to find a  welder. 
> Upgrades to battery and freshwater strainer, etc have taken  all extra
> room in the area, and I could not install a larger tank  without major
> fiberglass surgery on the underbunk panel, which I dont  want to do. 20 
> gallons serves me well, especially with Tom  Troncalli's refueling
> scheme installed.
>    I got an  email quote of about  $350 plus $35 shipping from
> Speedytanks.com  , in Pompano Beach, FL, a company recommended by Cree
> at Berkeley  Marine. We have temporarily reinstalled the original tank
> after lots  of epoxy on the leak. After the holidays and when we have
> used the 15  gallons or so remaining in the tank, I will replace it 
> with the  speedytank. I want to do perfect measurements on the removed
> tank  before ordering the replacement.
>     The sleuthing job  to find the leak has been one of the biggest
> pains we have had with  the boat. I hope to photograph the replacement 
> operation and place  saga on our web site.
>
> ps. Do any C38s not have a sloping  floor?
>
> regards, Don
>
>
> mark turner  wrote:
> > Hi Phil, The Goose is a 1981 with sloping floor. I have  the 
> > rectangular under bunk access panel. My fuel tank is shaped  like the
> > one in the drawing (goodness knows how I would ever get  it out).
> > Can't remember how much it holds except it is more than  18 gals. The 
> > brokers advert said 35 gals- i seem to recall it  was more like 25.
> >         ----- Original  Message -----
> >         From:  eyriepg at comcast.net
> >         To:  hlhowell at pacbell.net ; Catalina 38 Listserve
> >       Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:08 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [C38] Fuel tank tech info -- 5M  attachments 
> >
> >
> >       After comparing Les's photos of his 1982 fuel tank, which
>  >         looks like the tank drawing in the tech  tips part of the C38
> >         web site, I  am concluding that this tank could not possibly 
> >     fit under the quarterberth on my boat.  The main  problem is
> >         the my raw water  through hull is in the way.  Les's boat
> >       also has a larger access hole since his hole follows the 
>  >         chamfered shape of the quarterberth  molding where my cutout
> >         is  rectangular.
> >
> >         Now I  am wondering if any pre 1982 boats have a larger tank
> >   than the 18 gallon one that I have in my  boat.  I believe 
> >         that in  1982 Catalina made a number of changes to the
> >       interior of the C38.  The countertop around the sink  is
> >         shaped differently and a  little higher, and the floor is 
> >          stepped down forward of the galley where the earlier floors
> >   slope down (this takes guests by surprise all the  time).
> >         Any comments by pre 1982  boat owners would be very helpful. 
> >
> >     Phil Gay
> >         C38  049 Que Linda
> >         Everett,  WA
> >
> >               -------------- Original message --------------
> >   From: Les <  hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> >
> >         > Hi, everyone,
> >     > Sorry it took me so long  to get the photos and get
> >           them posted. Please 
> >     > forgive the dirty  appearance of the area near the
> >           fuel tank, we haven't
> >     > had time to get that  cleaned up this year...
> >             >
> >             > I used a tape measure to help you see the
>  >                 distances.  These photos can
> >               > be posted if Catalina approves. 
> >     >
> >     > Regards,
>  >                 > Les  H
> >                  > JACE
> >               >
> >
> >
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I bought the stern rails for my Catalina 38 and they work great. The only  
problem is that you must pull them off to get into the setty where my CNG is  
located.



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