[C38] stern rail seats.

Thu Dec 6 13:23:16 EST 2007

Andre,
        I would love to see the pics of the stern rail seats on your Cat 38.  It is fine seeing them on the Catalina website but to see them on the boat would help tremendously.  One of the reasons for getting the stern rail seat is hopefully have somewhere to sit while at the helm.  We spend the day on the water and standing (due to visibility issue) behind the wheel all day is a killer.

  Thanks again.

Alden Andre <alden642 at comcast.net> wrote:

Elenore, I have purchased stern rail seats both for my cat 30 and 38 and
love them . if you would like some pictures or a drawings I could send them
to you. I did buy mine from Catalina direct but they are expensive. Some
members of Craca copied mine and made their own with about $50 worth of
material vs 500 dollars from Catalina direct.

Alden Andre
Vice Commodore 
Columbia River All Catalinal Association
C-38 FLYBYE
503-929-8814
Alden642 at comcast.net
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1. Re: stern rail seats (Eldore Wood)

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:43:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Eldore Wood 

Subject: Re: [C38] stern rail seats
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We are looking to add some seating to Shya Amanzi - I have found some stern
rail seating at the Catalina Direct store that are made specifically for the
Cat 38. Has anyone on the forum purchased these? 

Eldore' and Victor

Eldore Wood 
wrote:
Hi Max,

thanks for the link. This is just what we were looking for
to support the table and at an excellent price.

Cheers, Eldore'

Max Soto wrote:
Hi Eldore,

I purchased one of this Zwaardvis table pedestals from ebay. I had to
build a new table since the previous owner removed it and installed a fridge
on its place.

Max Soto
C38 #188 ESTANCIA
Puntarenas, Costa Rica

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-TABLE-tables-Fluted-Aluminum-Table-Pedes
tal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26451QQihZ011QQitemZ320168752697QQrdZ1QQsspag
enameZWD1V 

2007/11/27, Alden Andre : 
I purchased a table from cruising concepts and love it. Email me and I will
send you some pics.

Alden Andre
Commoore
Columbia River All Catalinal Association
C-38 FLYBYE
503-929-8814
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:21:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Eldore Wood 

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We are looking to upgrade our cabin table on our 1982 Catalina 38. At the
moment the table is very awkward to manouver when having to convert the
dining area into extra sleeping room. The previous owners have had the 
upholstry redone with 6 inch thick foam which, although very comfy makes it
difficult to get your legs under the table.

Does anyone have any suggestions on where we could find a replacement -
Iooking through the website I found pictures showing the interior of 
Incommunicado, which shows a great table.

Kind regards,

Eldore' and Victor

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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:47:13 -0800
From: Les 
Subject: Re: [C38] early 20 gal fuel tanks, remove & replace
To: drstrong at ucdavis.edu, Catalina 38 Listserve

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Hi, Don,
I think the slope being referred to is between the forward end of
the
chart table and the forward end of the kitchen cabinet, where my boat
(and I think many others) has a step down of abort 3" as you go forward. 
I gather from some of the mails, that some boats have a slope there.

My tank is 35 gallons, and apparently was factory installed.

by the way, to find small leaks of any fluid or air, we use talcum 
powder. Cheap talc will provide nice delineation where fluid is moving,
and for some other kinds of air leaks will puff a nice little cloud.
Also it will impart a nice smell in the process. Do not use it for
volatile gas leaks, because it can aggravate the flame possibilities due
to static. There use some of the bubble mix that plumbers use, or kids
bubble soap or just mix up some good soapy water with dishwashing
liquid. 

A sneaky way to find cabin leaks is to seal the cabin, and inflate
it
with a vacuum cleaner. Then use bubble solution on the windows, frames,
hatches and so forth until the leak is found. That is a good time to 
wash the boat, too.

Regards,
Les H

Regards,
Les H
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 05:59 -0800, D. R. Strong wrote:
> Mark:
> Discreet Charm is hull number 50, 1980. She has a factory tank
> that holds ca 20 gallons. The tank is about 20 inches square
> horizontally, about 8.5 high on the outboard (starboard) side, and
> about 12 inches high on the inboard side. It has a pinhole leak along
> a welded seam. My pal and I pumped the residual fuel into a jerry can,
> then got the tank out pretty easily through the underbunk access.
> Cutting the fuel fill hose was necessary because the hose was fused to 
> the aluminum fill. I have been told that learned that in California
> shops either cannot by law or will no not by sanity weld tanks that
> have held fuel; it is not worth a drive to Reno to find a welder. 
> Upgrades to battery and freshwater strainer, etc have taken all extra
> room in the area, and I could not install a larger tank without major
> fiberglass surgery on the underbunk panel, which I dont want to do. 20 
> gallons serves me well, especially with Tom Troncalli's refueling
> scheme installed.
> I got an email quote of about $350 plus $35 shipping from
> Speedytanks.com , in Pompano Beach, FL, a company recommended by Cree
> at Berkeley Marine. We have temporarily reinstalled the original tank
> after lots of epoxy on the leak. After the holidays and when we have
> used the 15 gallons or so remaining in the tank, I will replace it 
> with the speedytank. I want to do perfect measurements on the removed
> tank before ordering the replacement.
> The sleuthing job to find the leak has been one of the biggest
> pains we have had with the boat. I hope to photograph the replacement 
> operation and place saga on our web site.
>
> ps. Do any C38s not have a sloping floor?
>
> regards, Don
>
>
> mark turner wrote:
> > Hi Phil, The Goose is a 1981 with sloping floor. I have the 
> > rectangular under bunk access panel. My fuel tank is shaped like the
> > one in the drawing (goodness knows how I would ever get it out).
> > Can't remember how much it holds except it is more than 18 gals. The 
> > brokers advert said 35 gals- i seem to recall it was more like 25.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: eyriepg at comcast.net
> > To: hlhowell at pacbell.net ; Catalina 38 Listserve
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Fuel tank tech info -- 5M attachments 
> >
> >
> > After comparing Les's photos of his 1982 fuel tank, which
> > looks like the tank drawing in the tech tips part of the C38
> > web site, I am concluding that this tank could not possibly 
> > fit under the quarterberth on my boat. The main problem is
> > the my raw water through hull is in the way. Les's boat
> > also has a larger access hole since his hole follows the 
> > chamfered shape of the quarterberth molding where my cutout
> > is rectangular.
> >
> > Now I am wondering if any pre 1982 boats have a larger tank
> > than the 18 gallon one that I have in my boat. I believe 
> > that in 1982 Catalina made a number of changes to the
> > interior of the C38. The countertop around the sink is
> > shaped differently and a little higher, and the floor is 
> > stepped down forward of the galley where the earlier floors
> > slope down (this takes guests by surprise all the time).
> > Any comments by pre 1982 boat owners would be very helpful. 
> >
> > Phil Gay
> > C38 049 Que Linda
> > Everett, WA
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: Les < hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> >
> > > Hi, everyone,
> > > Sorry it took me so long to get the photos and get
> > them posted. Please 
> > > forgive the dirty appearance of the area near the
> > fuel tank, we haven't
> > > had time to get that cleaned up this year...
> > >
> > > I used a tape measure to help you see the
> > distances. These photos can
> > > be posted if Catalina approves. 
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Les H
> > > JACE
> > >
> >
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