[C38] Humongous backstay tension!
D. R. Strong
drstrong at ucdavis.edu
Mon Aug 27 19:31:29 EDT 2007
Rick: We have never applied more than 1000lbs. I had a friend with a
C&C who sheared the pin at the masthead with his backstay tensioner.
Only the boom saved him from beheading by the recoiling backstay. Does
anyone know the official recommended backstay tension? 2500 is a
whopping force to put on the rigging, nej?
don
Rick Swensson wrote:
> Me too, Alden
>
> No stops with our double halyard setup on Rascal. The Harken furler gets
> cranky from time to time though especially with backstay tension in. By the
> way, with 2500 lbs on the backstay, you can't close the main hatch! Amazing
> how much these wonderful boats will take.
>
> Rick Swensson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alden Andre" <alden642 at comcast.net>
> To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 3, Issue 98
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>> We have a harken on fly bye. I don't have a halyard stop installed but did
>> on my 30. what we have found racing is that a lot of tension on the
>>
> halyard
>
>> it is hard to furl and jams. We loosen the tension and it furls easy. We
>>
> are
>
>> constantly changing the tension when racing so at the end of the day we
>>
> just
>
>> unload the tension. I found this true also on the 30 before I put the
>> halyard stop on. I wont put the stop on the 38 since we use two jib
>>
> halyards
>
>> and use both tracks in the foil for sail changes. Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alden Andre
>> FJ44 Retrofit Sales Manager
>> Clifford Development Group
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>> 1. Re: ROLLER FURLER (Rob Cornelsen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Rob Cornelsen <robcornelsen at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C38] ROLLER FURLER
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>> Charles,
>>
>> What model Profurl do you have?
>>
>> I local riggor talked me into replacing my original
>> Profurl RC42? with a Furlex 200s. It constantly binds
>> up and finally broke when furled up in a thunderstorm
>> furling line pulled right out of the drum.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rob Cornelsen
>>
>> Dead Calm #223
>>
>>
>> --- Charles <charles at finn.ws> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As my son Anders commented, we installed Profurl and
>>> have been quite
>>> happy about it. It is true that the sections are
>>> fastened together with
>>> set screws, but if you use setting cement supplied
>>> they will not work
>>> loose. Plus, you can make adjustments to length,
>>> etc. without having
>>> to drill. I flew a 165% headsail for two years with
>>> lots of stress with
>>> no problem. I also like that I retain my headstay
>>> as it is oversized on
>>> my boat. Installation took about 4 hours for two of
>>> us (reading the
>>> instructions).
>>>
>>> Charles Finn
>>> Mighty Quinn, #114
>>>
>>> Rick Swensson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Harken on "Rascal" and we've won plenty
>>>>
>>> of races with it.
>>>
>>>> Also it's simple but not too cheap. Keep it lubed
>>>>
>>> for easy use.
>>>
>>>> Rick Swensson
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Patrick Harpole
>>>>
>>> <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>
>>>> *To:* Listserve at catalina38.org
>>>>
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>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:08 AM
>>>> *Subject:* [C38] ROLLER FURLER
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts or replacing worn out jib roller
>>>>
>>> furler for Catalina 38?
>>>
>>>> i.e. is one brand more reliable than another?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: William Knowles <william_k_19810 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C38] ROLLER FURLER
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>> Rob I just put a Furlex on our boat and it works
>> great. But here is an eye strap at the top of your
>> mast that holds the halyard down Lots of installers
>> leave this part off as they feel it is not needed. It
>> is and it keeps the halyard from jamming the unit
>> when furled. Harken makes a strap also I recommend you
>> put it on any system you choose if it doesn't have
>> one.
>> Bill
>> --- Rob Cornelsen <robcornelsen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Charles,
>>>
>>> What model Profurl do you have?
>>>
>>> I local riggor talked me into replacing my original
>>> Profurl RC42? with a Furlex 200s. It constantly
>>> binds
>>> up and finally broke when furled up in a
>>> thunderstorm
>>> furling line pulled right out of the drum.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rob Cornelsen
>>>
>>> Dead Calm #223
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Charles <charles at finn.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As my son Anders commented, we installed Profurl
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> have been quite
>>>> happy about it. It is true that the sections are
>>>> fastened together with
>>>> set screws, but if you use setting cement supplied
>>>> they will not work
>>>> loose. Plus, you can make adjustments to length,
>>>> etc. without having
>>>> to drill. I flew a 165% headsail for two years
>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>> lots of stress with
>>>> no problem. I also like that I retain my headstay
>>>> as it is oversized on
>>>> my boat. Installation took about 4 hours for two
>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> us (reading the
>>>> instructions).
>>>>
>>>> Charles Finn
>>>> Mighty Quinn, #114
>>>>
>>>> Rick Swensson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Harken on "Rascal" and we've won plenty
>>>>>
>>>> of races with it.
>>>>
>>>>> Also it's simple but not too cheap. Keep it
>>>>>
>>> lubed
>>>
>>>> for easy use.
>>>>
>>>>> Rick Swensson
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Patrick Harpole
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>>> *To:* Listserve at catalina38.org
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:08 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* [C38] ROLLER FURLER
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts or replacing worn out jib
>>>>>
>>> roller
>>>
>>>> furler for Catalina 38?
>>>>
>>>>> i.e. is one brand more reliable than
>>>>>
>>> another?
>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
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