[C38] Humongous backstay tension!
Joseph Launie
jlaunie at cox.net
Mon Aug 27 20:39:42 EDT 2007
D. R. Strong wrote:
> Rick: We have never applied more than 1000lbs. I had a friend with a
> C&C who sheared the pin at the masthead with his backstay tensioner.
> Only the boom saved him from beheading by the recoiling backstay. Does
> anyone know the official recommended backstay tension? 2500 is a
> whopping force to put on the rigging, nej?
> don
>
> Rick Swensson wrote:
>> Me too, Alden
>>
>> No stops with our double halyard setup on Rascal. The Harken furler gets
>> cranky from time to time though especially with backstay tension in. By the
>> way, with 2500 lbs on the backstay, you can't close the main hatch! Amazing
>> how much these wonderful boats will take.
>>
>> Rick Swensson
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alden Andre" <alden642 at comcast.net>
>> To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 3, Issue 98
>>
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>>
>>> We have a harken on fly bye. I don't have a halyard stop installed but did
>>> on my 30. what we have found racing is that a lot of tension on the
>>>
>> halyard
>>
>>> it is hard to furl and jams. We loosen the tension and it furls easy. We
>>>
>> are
>>
>>> constantly changing the tension when racing so at the end of the day we
>>>
>> just
>>
>>> unload the tension. I found this true also on the 30 before I put the
>>> halyard stop on. I wont put the stop on the 38 since we use two jib
>>>
>> halyards
>>
>>> and use both tracks in the foil for sail changes. Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: ROLLER FURLER (Rob Cornelsen)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Rob Cornelsen <robcornelsen at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C38] ROLLER FURLER
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>>> Charles,
>>>
>>> What model Profurl do you have?
>>>
>>> I local riggor talked me into replacing my original
>>> Profurl RC42? with a Furlex 200s. It constantly binds
>>> up and finally broke when furled up in a thunderstorm
>>> furling line pulled right out of the drum.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rob Cornelsen
>>>
>>> Dead Calm #223
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Charles <charles at finn.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As my son Anders commented, we installed Profurl and
>>>> have been quite
>>>> happy about it. It is true that the sections are
>>>> fastened together with
>>>> set screws, but if you use setting cement supplied
>>>> they will not work
>>>> loose. Plus, you can make adjustments to length,
>>>> etc. without having
>>>> to drill. I flew a 165% headsail for two years with
>>>> lots of stress with
>>>> no problem. I also like that I retain my headstay
>>>> as it is oversized on
>>>> my boat. Installation took about 4 hours for two of
>>>> us (reading the
>>>> instructions).
>>>>
>>>> Charles Finn
>>>> Mighty Quinn, #114
>>>>
>>>> Rick Swensson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Harken on "Rascal" and we've won plenty
>>>>>
>>>> of races with it.
>>>>
>>>>> Also it's simple but not too cheap. Keep it lubed
>>>>>
>>>> for easy use.
>>>>
>>>>> Rick Swensson
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Patrick Harpole
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:08 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* [C38] ROLLER FURLER
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts or replacing worn out jib roller
>>>>>
>>>> furler for Catalina 38?
>>>>
>>>>> i.e. is one brand more reliable than another?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
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>>> Subject: Re: [C38] ROLLER FURLER
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>>> Rob I just put a Furlex on our boat and it works
>>> great. But here is an eye strap at the top of your
>>> mast that holds the halyard down Lots of installers
>>> leave this part off as they feel it is not needed. It
>>> is and it keeps the halyard from jamming the unit
>>> when furled. Harken makes a strap also I recommend you
>>> put it on any system you choose if it doesn't have
>>> one.
>>> Bill
>>> --- Rob Cornelsen <robcornelsen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Charles,
>>>>
>>>> What model Profurl do you have?
>>>>
>>>> I local riggor talked me into replacing my original
>>>> Profurl RC42? with a Furlex 200s. It constantly
>>>> binds
>>>> up and finally broke when furled up in a
>>>> thunderstorm
>>>> furling line pulled right out of the drum.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Rob Cornelsen
>>>>
>>>> Dead Calm #223
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Charles <charles at finn.ws> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As my son Anders commented, we installed Profurl
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> have been quite
>>>>> happy about it. It is true that the sections are
>>>>> fastened together with
>>>>> set screws, but if you use setting cement supplied
>>>>> they will not work
>>>>> loose. Plus, you can make adjustments to length,
>>>>> etc. without having
>>>>> to drill. I flew a 165% headsail for two years
>>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> lots of stress with
>>>>> no problem. I also like that I retain my headstay
>>>>> as it is oversized on
>>>>> my boat. Installation took about 4 hours for two
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> us (reading the
>>>>> instructions).
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Finn
>>>>> Mighty Quinn, #114
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Swensson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Harken on "Rascal" and we've won plenty
>>>>>>
>>>>> of races with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also it's simple but not too cheap. Keep it
>>>>>>
>>>> lubed
>>>>
>>>>> for easy use.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick Swensson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> *From:* Patrick Harpole
>>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* Listserve at catalina38.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:Listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:08 AM
>>>>>> *Subject:* [C38] ROLLER FURLER
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts or replacing worn out jib
>>>>>>
>>>> roller
>>>>
>>>>> furler for Catalina 38?
>>>>>
>>>>>> i.e. is one brand more reliable than
>>>>>>
>>>> another?
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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2,500 is way too much in my opinion - we race and never go much above
1,000 - with 2,500 you could turn the boat into a bananna. that is why
the hatch won't slide, the bow & stern are trying to meet. Joe Launie,
Macavity Hull # 365, Commodore
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