[C38] so whos boat is this in the sound alden andre
alden Andre
alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Fri May 9 11:24:29 EDT 2008
So I took this pic up in the sanjuan islands just wondering whose boat
it is.
Alden Andre
Office: 877-550-FJ44(3544) or 503-618-1951
Cell: 503-929-8814
Fax: 503-907-5507
Email : alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com, or alden642 at comcast.net
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3. Spartite VS Mast boot (Duff, Russ (R.W.))
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 22:24:51 -0700
From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] Bedding Shrouds and leaks
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On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 00:15 -0400, Charles wrote:
> By the way, I highly recommend Spartite. My mast and collar had taken
> a
> beating over the years with perhaps a too zealous application of mast
> shims. Spartite solved this problem and I no longer get any water
> coming in the cabin from the mast. Even better, mast stress on the
> deck
> is evenly distributed which can never happen with shims.
I'll second that. We had water on every wet day coming into Jace. No
delamination or other problems, but the mess on
the cushions at the forward port settee on the dinette were miserable.
Spar-tite fixed it. And our clay dam is still inplace as well. We had
it done when the mast was pulled and painted. We replaced all the
standing rigging at that time as well.
Someone asked about another location for leaks that caused drops near or
at their chain plates. On JACE the windows were leaking, and the
stanchions were leaking. We redid the windows (thank you Catalina
Direct) and rebedded the stanchions with all new hardware. The leaks
ceased. Last week at the boat we noticed some new drops. Checking it
looks like either the toe rail (I'll need help with that), or the tracks
for the fairleads. That I can do myself, so sometime in the next week
or two, I'll take that off and fix it.
My current project is to add solar panels. I have two 65 watt Kyocera
panels which measuer about 30x25. I am rigging a support across the
center of the dodger (still cloth) which will hold a 1" stainless rail
onto which I will clamp the solar panels. This will add about 25lbs or
so to the dodger, but should be well within limits. The wind loading
would not seem to be too great as a 2" stainless pipe stand with 1"
cross bar is one of the options for most solar installations for panels
up to 60" x 24", so mine should present less than 1/4 that in wind
loading because they will be shielded by the dodger and mast. Time will
tell.
I like Max's rigid vang, and that may be one of our next purchases.
Regards,
Les H
JACE
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 00:20:09 -0700
From: Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Bedding Shrouds and leaks
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I've been told by both the yard and the rigger to be careful with
spartite both commented to make sure you follow the directions and apply
vaseline to the inside of the deck ring. If not they warned that the
spartite will adhere to both the mast and the ring making it extremely
difficult to remove the mast in the future. We just had a new boot put
on when the mast got stepped, if we get water problems in the future I
am going to use the spartite. I like the load deflection
characteristics along with all the reviews about how well it seals.
Steve
From: Les
Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 10:24 PM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Bedding Shrouds and leaks
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 00:15 -0400, Charles wrote:
> By the way, I highly recommend Spartite. My mast and collar had taken
> a
> beating over the years with perhaps a too zealous application of mast
> shims. Spartite solved this problem and I no longer get any water
> coming in the cabin from the mast. Even better, mast stress on the
> deck
> is evenly distributed which can never happen with shims.
I'll second that. We had water on every wet day coming into Jace. No
delamination or other problems, but the mess on
the cushions at the forward port settee on the dinette were miserable.
Spar-tite fixed it. And our clay dam is still inplace as well. We had
it done when the mast was pulled and painted. We replaced all the
standing rigging at that time as well.
Someone asked about another location for leaks that caused drops near or
at their chain plates. On JACE the windows were leaking, and the
stanchions were leaking. We redid the windows (thank you Catalina
Direct) and rebedded the stanchions with all new hardware. The leaks
ceased. Last week at the boat we noticed some new drops. Checking it
looks like either the toe rail (I'll need help with that), or the tracks
for the fairleads. That I can do myself, so sometime in the next week
or two, I'll take that off and fix it.
My current project is to add solar panels. I have two 65 watt Kyocera
panels which measuer about 30x25. I am rigging a support across the
center of the dodger (still cloth) which will hold a 1" stainless rail
onto which I will clamp the solar panels. This will add about 25lbs or
so to the dodger, but should be well within limits. The wind loading
would not seem to be too great as a 2" stainless pipe stand with 1"
cross bar is one of the options for most solar installations for panels
up to 60" x 24", so mine should present less than 1/4 that in wind
loading because they will be shielded by the dodger and mast. Time will
tell.
I like Max's rigid vang, and that may be one of our next purchases.
Regards,
Les H
JACE
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:33:53 -0400
From: "Duff, Russ (R.W.)" <rduff at visteon.com>
Subject: [C38] Spartite VS Mast boot
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Somehow, I don't see how Spartite can make the mast partner any more
waterproof than a good mast boot. Am I missing something? I installed a
good rubber mast boot (appropriately sealed) and have had no leaks. I
also
did not use any shims when the mast was installed. Can this be a
problem?
Sincerely,
Russ Duff
Catalina 38, Hull #112
"AVANTURA"
Lake Erie
Grosse Ile, Michigan
RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
AVANTURA AT COMCAST DOT NET
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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:20 AM
To: hlhowell at pacbell.net; Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Bedding Shrouds and leaks
I've been told by both the yard and the rigger to be careful with
spartite
both commented to make sure you follow the directions and apply vaseline
to
the inside of the deck ring. If not they warned that the spartite will
adhere to both the mast and the ring making it extremely difficult to
remove
the mast in the future. We just had a new boot put on when the mast got
stepped, if we get water problems in the future I am going to use the
spartite. I like the load deflection characteristics along with all the
reviews about how well it seals.
Steve
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From: Les
Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 10:24 PM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Bedding Shrouds and leaks
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 00:15 -0400, Charles wrote:
> By the way, I highly recommend Spartite. My mast and collar had taken
> a
> beating over the years with perhaps a too zealous application of mast
> shims. Spartite solved this problem and I no longer get any water
> coming in the cabin from the mast. Even better, mast stress on the
> deck
> is evenly distributed which can never happen with shims.
I'll second that. We had water on every wet day coming into Jace. No
delamination or other problems, but the mess on
the cushions at the forward port settee on the dinette were miserable.
Spar-tite fixed it. And our clay dam is still inplace as well. We had
it done when the mast was pulled and painted. We replaced all the
standing rigging at that time as well.
Someone asked about another location for leaks that caused drops near or
at their chain plates. On JACE the windows were leaking, and the
stanchions were leaking. We redid the windows (thank you Catalina
Direct) and rebedded the stanchions with all new hardware. The leaks
ceased. Last week at the boat we noticed some new drops. Checking it
looks like either the toe rail (I'll need help with that), or the tracks
for the fairleads. That I can do myself, so sometime in the next week
or two, I'll take that off and fix it.
My current project is to add solar panels. I have two 65 watt Kyocera
panels which measuer about 30x25. I am rigging a support across the
center of the dodger (still cloth) which will hold a 1" stainless rail
onto which I will clamp the solar panels. This will add about 25lbs or
so to the dodger, but should be well within limits. The wind loading
would not seem to be too great as a 2" stainless pipe stand with 1"
cross bar is one of the options for most solar installations for panels
up to 60" x 24", so mine should present less than 1/4 that in wind
loading because they will be shielded by the dodger and mast. Time will
tell.
I like Max's rigid vang, and that may be one of our next purchases.
Regards,
Les H
JACE
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