[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 4, Issue 9

[William Knowles]

I have a "boats to go" great boat great price.

--- Chris Johnson <cjohnson at kainsurance.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the information Les
> I too have the Mercury 9.9 that is about 11 years
> old...the old blue
> stripe one...
> Anyway, I got the "brown or rust" spotting going on
> and there is no way
> to remove it. It is staining from the inside out, so
> scrubbing is not
> working. Solvents not working....
> I am going the SS in Chicago to look at the latest
> and greatest.  I have
> a local dealer her in MN that sells AB & Zodiac. I
> am convinced, at this
> point, to go with the RIB type bottom. I will be
> hanging it off the back
> of my 387 with davits. The weight is only slightly
> more than wood
> floors. Maybe 12-15 lbs. A friend has a RIB and it
> flies with an old
> 10hp on it! 
> Anyway, AB also makes one with an aluminum floor
> that is smaller, but
> very expensive. I am leaning toward the Zodiac 310
> or the Walker Bay
> Genesis RIB
> 
> Still months from soft water,
> 
> Chris  
> Chinook 387  # 26
> 
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>    1. Re: inflatable tenders (Bit of an Essay) (Les)
>    2. hauling for bottom painting (Patrick Harpole)
>    3. Re: inflatable tenders (Joseph Launie)
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:16:44 -0800
> From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [C38] inflatable tenders (Bit of an
> Essay)
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> Sorry to be so long winded, but I have discovered
> that dinghys inspire
> me somewhat...
> 
> Nancy and I now have an Achilles hypalon.  Our
> previous dinghy was a
> Quicksilver PVC.  The PVC dinghy lasted about 6
> years, then began to
> acquire some dark sticky stuff on its tubes and
> inflatable floor.  I was
> told that this was the stuff that kept it flexible. 
> I learned that this
> could be cleaned up with Goo-gone ( Xylene seems to
> be the primary
> ingredient).  I used this to clean the dinghy off. 
> Then I contacted
> Mercury's Quicksilver division to get some idea of
> the failure mode of
> the dinghy and expected remaining life, but got no
> response.  Thus we
> went with the Hypalon dinghy on the next iteration. 
> I haven't had to
> patch the dinghy yet, but I do have some stuff I
> glued on, which is not
> holding as well as I would like.  I had some repairs
> done because the
> webbing was tearing off that held the D rings for
> the scramble line (the
> rope around the top edge of the tubes).  That was
> covered under
> warrantee. 
>  
> 	The Quicksilver had been patched a few times.  I
> tend to be
> gentle with my dinghy's. 
> 
> 	Both had the inflatable floor.  The dinghy prior to
> these was an
> 11'6"
> avon.  It was the kind that had no transom, and used
> a rig to mount a
> small 2-3 HP motor to one end.  The tubes were
> pretty badly rusted, and
> I sandblasted them and painted them then put new PVC
> pipes over the ends
> to match the mounts.  This dinghy was when we had
> our 22.  It was just
> too big for handling on the 22.  I had been given
> it, with no floor, and
> so I make a floor for it, and eventually passed it
> on to a friend.  I
> believe he passed it on to yet another friend.  Sort
> of a testiment to
> Avon and hypalon I think.  The life I know of was
> over 10 years. But the
> small motor was a drawback when cruising with
> others, it didn't row well
> at all, and was as I said larger than we needed at
> the time.
> 
> 	As to the floor... The wood floor I made was 1/4"
> fir marine
> plywood.
> It was a bit heavier than the original flooring, but
> held up well, and
> fir is a real hard wood.  It took the bangs and
> scrapes in stride.  I
> had coated it with epoxy, the cleaned that and
> primered it with a white
> primer, and then three coats of marine enamel.  I
> used it for 3 years
> with no problems no chipping, flaking or feathering
> (fir tends to do
> this if it gets water in the grain).  It was a
> hassel to install, until
> I figured out to put it in when the tubes were about
> 1/3 inflated, then
> it went easy.  It was a love hate relationship.  I
> think it was a bit
> more comfortable for use, but meant the bottom was
> flat, so the darn
> dinghy skated over the top of the water like a
> saucer, and the shape of
> that particular dinghy didn't help.  It was quicker
> to inflate and get
> going because I didn't have to inflate the floor. 
> It was a bit more
> difficult to store because you always had the floor
> boards to hide
> somewhat, which was aggravated by being on a 22.
> 
> 	I was told to get the biggest dinghy I was
> comfortable with.  I
> opted for the 10'6" Achilles this time because the
> 9'6" Quicksilver
> wasn't large enough.  Now I wish I had gone 1'
> larger, but I couldn't
> have stored it on the foredeck when cruising. 
> Everything is a trade
> off.
> One other note.  Rowing you must have the center
> seat.  Motoring you
> don't need either seat, and we sometimes run it that
> way to add some
> more cargo space.  However we are older, and running
> for more than an
> hour or so with your head turned to one side is a
> pain.  I built a
> second seat, and it installs on the stearn seat
> tabs.  I made it a bit
> wider, too (I'm a broad container and needed to have
> my legs quit going
> to sleep).  The mounting guides are available from
> Achilles.  Both of
> the last two have had the inflatable floors with the
> inflatable keel.
> While this slows the boat a bit, it makes control a
> great deal easier at
> least for me.  The Quicksilver was too short to row
> well.  The Achilles
> is a bit better, and the best of the three for
> rowing.  but when you
> row, you loose some cargo room for the space to move
> your 
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