[C38] Rudder

Tue Mar 15 03:11:13 EDT 2011

Larry,
     Frank Butler told us about 15 years ago our rudder was probably 
water-logged. So about 5 years ago we ordered a new rudder and had it 
installed. When they dropped the old rudder, the yard called us and 
asked why we were changing rudders. "this one looks great", they said. 
An hour later they called back - they said "Now we know why." The yard 
boss had carried the new rudder across the yard himself. It took 3 guys 
to carry the old rudder to the trash. This is probably only an issue for 
us southern - boat in the water year round guys. The rest of you take 
the boat out to dry  periodically. Joe Launie/Macavity.

On 3/14/2011 8:33 PM, Larry Malmberg wrote:
> Well, I have been following the Rudder issue and I do have a comment.  
> Folks if you have not had your rudder dropped in the shipyard do so.  
> We did in 2009 before the Trans Pac and found pitting around the shaft 
> as it went into the rudder, not good at all.  We had another rudder 
> fabricated locally and no problems what so ever.  I cannot imagine nor 
> do I want to know what it's like without a rudder.  LOL  We did take a 
> mandatory alternate steering device with us on that race.  If you have 
> a spinnaker pole that can easily  be used as an alternate steering device.
>
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>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Malmberg
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Finn
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 8:10 PM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Rudderpost Tube Redo
>
> David and Steve,
>
> Have you considered the mylar film option?  This is far easier and 
> works for years.  My understanding is rudder slop is really a cosmetic 
> issue as there is so much glass in the rudder post structure.
> The one concern I would have for Steve (and Larry)  is the integrity 
> of the rudder itself.  Mighty Quinn is on her second rudder as the 
> first was turned to mush after a lightning strike (that was the path 
> it chose to use exiting the vessel).   I would guess that most of our 
> boats have leaks in the rudder as they are surprisingly lightly 
> built.  This is generally true of most sailboats and we in areas where 
> the water gets hard often see boat owners drill holes in the bottom of 
> their rudders to ensure drainage so it does not freeze inside the 
> rudder.  Our boats can pretty much withstand anything except loss of 
> rudder...   Given what has happened to my boat, I have an emergency 
> backup design where boards used to cover access to cubbies within the 
> cabin can be used to fashion an emergency rudder.
>
> Chuck Finn
> Mighty Quinn  #114
> Great Lakes
>
> On 3/14/2011 4:33 PM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> The rudder post extends 32.25 inches above the top of the rudder 
>> according to Catalina's drawing, I would think if you had four feet 
>> under the rudder when blocked you would be okay, let me know as it 
>> sounds like you're going ahead of me on this.
>>
>> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of 
>> *david at dlrfilms.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 11:00 AM
>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Rudderpost Tube Redo
>>
>> Do you or anyone else know how deep a hole you have dig to drop the 
>> rudder
>> with the boat sitting on her keel?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > David,
>> >
>> > Peregrine is coming out on 4/1 for the same thing,  I think we will have
>> > to do the pour twice once on the lower tube and once on the upper.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > #312
>> > Seattle
>> >
>> > ________________________________
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>> > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> on behalf of 
>> david at dlrfilms.com <mailto:david at dlrfilms.com>
>> > Sent: Sun 3/13/2011 6:57 PM
>> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> > Subject: [C38] Rudderpost Tube Redo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > C38 association dues just paid, I'm now logged in and looking at the
>> > drawing for the rudderpost resin repair.
>> >
>> > Ut oh! Doesn't look like my boat!
>> >
>> > My boat has an exposed portion of the rudder post beneath the deck where
>> > the wheel use to attach, and something that looks sort of like a 
>> stuffing
>> > box where the post goes down through the hull and out to the rudder.
>> >
>> > Ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
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