[C38] check this out
tdtron at earthlink.net
tdtron at earthlink.net
Fri Jul 6 21:06:16 EDT 2012
Thanks Donald,
That was a great article.
Tom Troncalli
> [Original Message]
> From: Donald Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
> To: Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com>; Catalina 38 Listserve
<listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: 7/6/2012 8:04:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [C38] check this out
>
>
> I was led to this by a thread about "what bot should I buy..."
>
http://www.talkofthedock.com/boat-reviews/used-sail/263-catalina-38-review/
>
> >
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> > Larry, what kind of Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under deck
> > piston???
> > Max
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Right on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle absent
the
> > unfortunate fire in 2010. Given the circumstances of the fire, purchase
> > back at salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems and are still
> > fine tuning them. On another note, our instruments were changed from
> > Raymarine to Nexus and of course they have different languages, our auto
> > helm is still Raymarine and I would like to get the auto helm integrated
> > to our system. Anyone have experience converting Sea Talk Raymarine's
> > proprietary language to NEMA? Any advice would be appreciated. I would
> > like to be able to plot a route on our Garmin Chart Plotter and have the
> > auto helm follow the route.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Larry Malmberg
> > >
> > > 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
> > > Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
> > > Telephone 909-208-1847
> > > FAX 909-991-7568
> > >
> > > E Mail Larrypi at roadrunner.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love
> > truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you
> > smile..
> > >
> > > "The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control
> > > immigration"
> > >
> > >
> > > "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
> > safely in
> > > a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
> > > thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; WOW--
What
> > a
> > > Ride!"
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> > > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30 AM
> > > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> > >
> > > Hmmm....
> > > This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from other sailors
> > from time to time. Some of it is great! And others.... well, we all
> > have to sound like experts! After all, how can you be a Captain and not
> > be an expert?
> > >
> > > And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell off,"
> > the bolt in your block would not fall out (it is screwed in tight
holding
> > your alternator). And! you would surely notice all the racket of your
> > alternator bouncing around in the engine compartment way before you ran
> > out of engine oil!
> > >
> > > While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a discussion with a
> > fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power boat. Two
> > engines and 13,000 pounds. What was his experience afloat? NONE! Had
> > he even owned another boat? NO! But, rest assured that the guy selling
> > it has promised to tell him everything he needs to know to run this
thing!
> > He is a very nice person and I am sure he will be an expert Captain
once
> > someone shows him where the ignition switch is!
> > >
> > > That is why I listen to Steve S., Tom T. and the rest of you guys who
> > have time on task and the grace to share it!
> > >
> > > Chuck Finn
> > > Mighty Quinn #114
> > > Great Lakes
> > >
> > > On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
> > >> The engine wouldn’t loose all of its oil, you would realize
first
> > that your alternator was off, there is a small weep hole in the block
> > that the bolt on the bracket seals.
> > >> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> > 1derful at comcast.net
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM
> > >> To: Larrypi at roadrunner.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
> > >> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> > >> I don't have any problems.
> > >> My engine starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.
> > >> He is a "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up with
> > this weekend. He just made a number of suggestions to improve boat. He
> > said there is a web site for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
> > recommend.
> > >> He mentioned something about a post-market support for the alternator
> > which is supposed to prevent it from falling off which "would cause
engine
> > to lose all its oil."
> > >> I believe in "If its not broken....don't fix it."
> > >> I have gotten into trouble fixing things that work
> > >> Thanks for your response.
> > >> Patrick
> > >>
> > >> From: "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
> > >> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> > >>
> > >> Patrick, I can only suppose that he will do the work and bill you for
> > it? If you don't have charging problems, if everything seems to be
> > working OK my opinion is don't mess with it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Larry Malmberg
> > >> Team Hassle
> > >> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> > 1derful at comcast.net
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51 PM
> > >> To: Catalina
> > >> Subject: [C38] up-grading electrical system
> > >>
> > >> I met a fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my "elcetrical
> > harness"? to one with more amps. He said the batteries would charge
> > better.
> > >> Is that worth while?
> > >> My boat spends most of its life tied into shore power.
> > >> Patrick
> > >>
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> >
> > <html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Larry, what kind of
> > Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under deck
> > piston???</div><div>Max<br><br>Sent from my
> > iPod</div><div><br>On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg"
> > <<a
> > href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a>>
> > wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote
> > type="cite"><div>
> >
> > <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
> > class="449353915-06072012"><font face="Arial">Right on
> > Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle absent the
unfortunate
> > fire
> > in 2010. Given the circumstances of the fire, purchase back at
> > salvage we
> > upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems and are still fine tuning
> > them. On
> > another note, our instruments were changed from Raymarine to Nexus and
of
> > course
> > they have different languages, our auto helm is still Raymarine and I
> > would like
> > to get the auto helm integrated to our system. Anyone have
> > experience
> > converting Sea Talk Raymarine's proprietary language to NEMA? Any
> > advice
> > would be appreciated. I would like to be able to plot a route on our
> >
> > Garmin Chart Plotter and have the auto helm follow the
> > route.</font></span></div>
> > <div> </div><!-- Converted from text/plain format
> > --><br><br><br><br>
> > <p><font size="2">Best regards,<br><br>Larry
> > Malmberg<br><br>7231 Boulder Avenue
> > Suite 507<br>Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211<br>Telephone
> > 909-208-1847<br>FAX
> >
> > 909-991-7568<br><br>E Mail
> > <a href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
> >
href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a><br><br><
br>
> <br> <br>Life
> > is short, Break the rules,
> > Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And
never
> > regret
> > anything that made you smile..<br> <br>"The American Indians
> > found out what
> > happens when you don't
> > control<br>immigration"<br><br><br>"Life is not a
> > journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in<br>a
> > pretty and
> > well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,<br>thoroughly
> > used up,
> > totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; WOW-- What
> > a<br>Ride!"<br><br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic
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> > <div dir="ltr" lang="en-us" class="OutlookMessageHeader" align="left">
> > <hr tabindex="-1">
> > <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a
> >
href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.
org</a>
> >
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] <b>On Behalf Of
> > </b>Charles<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30
> > AM<br><b>To:</b> Catalina
> > 38 Listserve<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [C38] up-grading electrical
> > system<br></font><br></div>
> > <div></div>
> > <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hmmm....<br>This sounds like a lot of
> > the "sage"
> > advice I get from other sailors from time to time. Some of it is
> > great! And others.... well, we all have to sound like
> > experts!
> > After all, how can you be a Captain and not be an expert?<br><br>And
> > if you
> > alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell off," the bolt in
> > your
> > block would not fall out (it is screwed in tight holding your
> > alternator).
> > And! you would surely notice all the racket of your alternator
> > bouncing
> > around in the engine compartment way before you ran out of engine
> > oil!<br><br>While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a
> > discussion with a
> > fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power boat. Two
> >
> > engines and 13,000 pounds. What was his experience afloat?
> > NONE! Had he even owned another boat? NO! But, rest
> > assured
> > that the guy selling it has promised to tell him everything he needs to
> > know to
> > run this thing! He is a very nice person and I am sure he will be an
> >
> > expert Captain once someone shows him where the ignition switch
> > is!<br><br>That
> > is why I listen to Steve S., Tom T. and the rest of you guys who
> > have time
> > on task and the grace to share it!<br><br>Chuck Finn<br>Mighty
> > Quinn
> > #114<br>Great Lakes<br><br>On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske
> >
> > wrote:<br></div>
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> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
> > engine wouldn’t loose all of its oil, you
> > would
> > realize first that your alternator was off, there is a
> > small
> > weep hole in the block that the bolt on the bracket seals.
> > <o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
> > 11pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> > <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span
> > style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a
> > class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
> > href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"><a
> >
href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.
org</a></a>
> >
> > [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
> > href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"><a
> >
href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">mailto:listserve-bounces at cata
lina38.org</a>
> </a>]
> >
> > <b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
> > href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net"><a
> >
href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net">1derful at comcast.net</a></a><br><b>Sent:</b
>
> >
> > Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a
> > class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
> > href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"><a
> > href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>;
> > Catalina 38
> > Listserve<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [C38] up-grading electrical
> > system<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
> > <div>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I
> > don't have
> > any problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">My engine
> > starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">He is a
> > "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up with this
> > weekend. He just made a number of suggestions to improve
> > boat. He
> > said there is a web site for Catalina that tells what upgrades are
> > recommend. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">He mentioned
> > something about a post-market support for the alternator which is
> > supposed to
> > prevent it from falling off which "would cause engine to lose all its
> > oil."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I
> > believe in
> > "If its not broken....don't fix it."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I
> > have gotten
> > into trouble fixing things that work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">Thanks for
> > your response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
> > align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">
> > <hr id="zwchr" align="center" size="3" width="100%">
> > </span></div>
> > <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From: </span></b><span
> > style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">"Larry
Malmberg"
> > <<a href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com"
> > moz-do-not-send="true"><a
> >
href="mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com">Larrypi at roadrunner.com</a></a>><br><b>T
o:
> > </b>"Catalina
> > 38 Listserve" <<a href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org"
> > moz-do-not-send="true"><a
> >
href="mailto:listserve at catalina38.org">listserve at catalina38.org</a></a>><br>
<b>Sent:
> >
> > </b>Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re:
> > [C38] up-grading
> > electrical system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Patrick, I can only
> > suppose that he will do the work and bill you for it? If you don't
> > have
> > charging problems, if everything seems to be working OK my opinion is
> > don't
> > mess with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <div>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
> > <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span
> > style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black;
> > FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best
> > regards,<br><br>Larry Malmberg<br>Team Hassle</span><span
> > style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <div>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
> > <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal"
> > align="center"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">
> > <hr align="center" size="3" width="100%">
> > </span></div>
> > <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span
> > style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
> > 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a
> > href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org"
> > moz-do-not-send="true"><a
> >
href="mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org">listserve-bounces at catalina38.
org</a></a>
> > <a href="mailto:[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]"
> > moz-do-not-send="true">[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]</a>
> > <b>On
> > Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net"
> > moz-do-not-send="true"><a
> >
href="mailto:1derful at comcast.net">1derful at comcast.net</a></a><br><b>Sent:</b
>
> > Thursday, July
> > 05, 2012 5:51 PM<br><b>To:</b>
> > Catalina<br><b>Subject:</b> [C38] up-grading
> > electrical system</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
> > 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I
> > met a
> > fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my "elcetrical harness"?
> > to one
> > with more amps. He said the batteries would charge
> > better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">Is that worth
> > while?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">My boat
> > spends most of its life tied into shore
> > power.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
> > <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR:
> > black">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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