[C38] Whisker pole suggestions

Fri May 17 13:43:55 EDT 2013

Thanks for the tips regarding dual usage of the pole as a bad idea. Perhaps
if the pole were make of unobtainium... I'll just get a whisker-pole only.
More beer available after purchase too.

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Ray Torok <torok13731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Larry.  In my experience, spinnaker poles are shorter and
> stouter than whisker poles.
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> two cents,
> Ray
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> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Larry Malmberg <larrypi at roadrunner.com>wrote:
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>> Pierre, I would NOT suggest trying to use the whisker pole for a
>> spinnaker pole, you’ll likely bend the heck out of it.  Take it from one
>> that knows.  LOL****
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>> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:
>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Pierre Patino
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2013 8:28 AM
>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Whisker pole suggestions****
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>> Hello people
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>> Thanks for the very good information. I just "wasted" two hours poring
>> over the recommendations from Forespar and I think I understand the bits I
>> need. I agree with Ray's pole length assessment. My partner however
>> suggested we get a longer pole in case we'd ever want to use it as a
>> spinnaker pole. I'm not sure that's possible of even desirable (a testament
>> of our ignorance and incompetence). We are not racers but we like to tinker.
>> ****
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>> I think the pole-stowing is the way to go. I hadn't thought about the
>> track length and I thank Ray for pointing it out. I assumed my mast's track
>> length must be the same as everyone's. I don't know how that's decided at
>> new-boat purchase time but I certainly wasn't part of the process. I'm
>> getting on the bosun's chair this weekend anyway for other repairs and will
>> measure it.****
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>> There's a site which is quoting around $1800 for pole, chocks and car
>> (not counting shipping). That's about 600 pints of beer or 150 standard
>> happy hour evenings...****
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>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Ray Torok <torok13731 at gmail.com> wrote:*
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>> Hi Pierre,****
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>> At a recent boat show I asked the Forespar rep about this.  He steered me
>> to the next size smaller version of the one you are looking at - part no.
>> 402200.  This is also the one that the selection guide on the Forespar
>> website likes http://www.forespar.com/whisker2011.shtml#C_LIST****
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>>  It telescopes out to 22 feet, which seems like plenty for anything I
>> would do, and is significantly lighter than the 403200 (27 lbs. vs. 38
>> lbs.).****
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>> The Forespar guy also liked the idea of stowing it on the mast, as you
>> never have to carry the whole thing around on the foredeck with the ends
>> banging around, and never have to carry the full weight of it.  However,
>> the track on my mast is not long enough to stow even the 402200 against the
>> mast.  He suggested adding track at the top, which is probably what I will
>> do.  It means drilling and tapping while hanging in a bosun's chair, but
>> should be doable.****
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>> On the Forespar website, it says the 'ring' style mast cars cannot be
>> used for vertical stowing against the mast.
>> http://www.forespar.com/products/sail-mast-car.shtml****
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>> That drives you to the T-125-S mast car, which is pretty pricey, and the
>> 402201 pole, which has the inboard end fitting that goes with the T-125-S.
>> ****
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>> I suggest you go over all this with the Forespar folks before buying
>> anything.****
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>> Good luck,****
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>> Ray****
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>> Thira****
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>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Pierre Patino <pierre.patino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
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>> Hello gurus****
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>> I'm about to buy my first whisker pole. I'm looking at this one:****
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>> http://www.forespar.com/products/line-control-whisker-pole-aluminum.shtml
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>> Part number 403200 (for up to 46' boats)****
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>> I don't plan on using it on the 160% genoa since there's already enough
>> wind for the 110% jib.****
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>> I'd like to know what hardware I need for affixing to the mast where I
>> plan to store it. I've never bought any cars for the T-track on the mast
>> which I assume is standard 1 1/4".****
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>> Is this the only bit I need?****
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>> http://www.marine.com/forespar-rc125-mast-p-28367.html****
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>> Thanks for your wisdom and precious time****
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>> Cheers****
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