[C38] Under Contract - Some questions

Wed Jun 3 13:20:11 EDT 2015

Hey chuck,
Yea, I'm sure thats true as I'm on my 3rd 30+ year old boat and had to bring the previous 2 back from brink to usable, reliable vessels.  However, these Furlers are not boat specific and can be adjusted to the boat.  I think worst case scenario is the need to buy another length of extrusion or perhaps have to cut some off of what is supplied, right?  
As far as forestay gauge, I'm going to replace all the standing rigging because there is no indication of the standing rigging ever having been replaced and I'd rather just re-set the clock on that particular item and not have to worry about the age so much.  That will allow me to choose what ever gauge would be good for the job and the boat.  So, I don't think, in this case, I need to worry too much about what a PO did in regard to standing rigging.  
I'd like to pull the trigger on the profurl just because of the price right now.   Unless that would be a mistake.  I won't be able to return it because it is on clearance.
Danny
      From: Charles Finn <charles at finn.ws>
 To: Daniel Haughey <djphawk at yahoo.com>; Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [C38] Under Contract - Some questions

 Daniel,
 This is where we all need to understand that our boats are used and what fits one may not fit another!  Owners do the darnedest things and you really really have to get on the boat and measure!  For example, I have seen wire rigging as well as rod rigging;  3/8 and other size fore stays; large turnbuckles and smaller ones.  You even need to measure the length of your fore stay!

 Only then will you know what you need.  I prefer to do all this myself, but I may be in the minority as it does appear that Riggers are doing an excellent business!

 Sorry to put it back on you, but I hope you understand why!
 cf

 By the way, if you do decide to do this yourself, DO use anti-lock on the extrusion screws!

 On 6/3/2015 10:47 AM, Daniel Haughey wrote:

  HI chuck, 
  Here are the specs and features.  Does this look like what I need? 
  Features:    
   - Elite headsail system designed for heavy duty use on cruising boats from 40' to 49'
   - Twin-groove round section 1-21/32" Diameter extrusions
   - Fixed drum manufactured from hard UV-resistant plastic
   - Drum is open for easy furling line inspection
   - Stainless steel feeder and cage arms
   - Adjustable titanium dual-bearing swivel halyard tang
   - Wrapstop prevents halyard from wrapping around headstay and reduces potential halyard chafe
   - Supplied standard with long link plates for keeping drum above deck obstructions
   - 10-year worldwide warranty
 Specifications:    
   - Profurl C-42E Elite Furler (White Drum and White Swivel)
   - Round Luff Foil: 1.7” Diameter
   - Typical Boat Length: 40' - 49'
   - Headstay Length: 52'       
      - Includes (8) 79" Extrusions (Extra Extrusions Sold Separately)

   - Max. Headstay Diameter: 1/2"
   - Clevis Pin Diameter: 5/8" (Other Sizes Available by Special Order)
   - These units are supplied with short link plates
   - Max. Sail Area: 850 sq. ft.
   - Double Luff Groove: Yes
   - Removable Drum: Yes

      From: Charles Finn <charles at finn.ws>
 To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [C38] Under Contract - Some questions

   Catalina38.org is our website.  Look in Tech Tips.  Of course we would appreciate it if you would join our organization!  Click the "Join" button on our website for how to do so.
 That price is impressive and make sure it fits!  I think my NC-42 cost more that twice that much!
 Best,
 cf

 On 6/2/2015 8:40 PM, Daniel Haughey wrote:

| Hi guys! 
  thanks for the comments. 
  William, you had someone repair your step?  do you know how they did it. 
  Chuck, will I have to do anything to access the site?  is it a paid membership? 
  defender had the profurl for 1200

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|  From:"William Knowles" <whk1965 at gmail.com>
 Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:17 pm
 Subject:Re: [C38] Under Contract - Some questions

  All modern fulers are good go for the best price, had my mast step done  (found cracks in sole) cut out sole and replaced step was like wet paper with epoxied wood did not redo sole hid hole with molding cut cost  looks great. Got great price on jib from Roly Tasker (north american sails) go for tri  radial. 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Charles Finn <charles at finn.ws> wrote:

   Danny,
 You will love the boat as it has the  pedigree to do what you describe.

 1. I have had a profurl for over 10  years and over 20,000 miles with no trouble.  You do need to go with the close to the deck  configuration.
 2. Steve Smolinske really likes Island  Planet sails and I personally know how fast his boat is!  But, are many sailmakers out there  and we all seem to have preferences.  If money is short, shop Bacon Sails or  Minney's for used sails.  Sometimes you get lucky!
 3. Now that I have a dodger and  bimini.....  what the hell was I thinking all those  years sailing without it?  I guess I just like rolling dice with melanoma?  Best way is to have one custom fitted.  Make SURE you can see the sails, sea  and other boats!
 4. The mast step fix is on our website.
 5.  Make sure the surveyor sounds your deck for voids and  checks for moisture.  I would be surprised if there was none as we  have a cored deck and cabin.  Unless things are real bad, this should not be a  deal killer.  Just get it fixed.  
 Have the surveyor look at your  rigging, especially around turnbuckles.

 Best,
 Chuck Finn
 Commodore

 On 6/2/2015 4:43 PM, Daniel Haughey  wrote:

   Hi Guys, 
  After an unusual round of interactions,  I've finally come to terms on a price and about to sign a P&S and schedule a pre purchase  survey.  I'm pretty excited about the  prospect but, still willing to walk away if the  survey goes bad, (or worse than I  have imagined). 
  Anyway, just trying to gather some info about  things we'd need pretty quickly if the deal goes thru. 
  1. New standing rigging and a roller  fuler     I'm looking at a Profurl on  closeout from Defender currently and  I'm going to try and contact the  guy that rerigged my previous boat      for the standing rigging.  Any insights or comment here?

  2.  I believe it will need a new  headsail pretty quickly too.  when the seller says it is "fair" it needs  replaced...  I see some available on        line for delivery.  Is that a good idea?  We're not racers but we like spirited  sailing and don't really go home at  25knots...  I'm        thinking a 135 working sail will do us  nicely. 
  3. A bimini is really important  to us.  It this something we can get from an on  line source?  Or, is that a bad idea? 
  4. The mast step seems to need  attention.  I think someone here has a  pretty detailed how to on that.  The existing one seems to be      a shaped block of wood.  Any good pointers here or where I could  find that how to? 
  5. Any particular things or areas  of focus I should make the surveyor aware  of? 
  Thanks for any comments,  suggestions or insights guys. 
  Danny  

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